July 1995

Ok now that this is somewhat started how about some input from everyone. Suggestions: Name: Organization: Types of Modems: Type of racks: Type of management you are using: Future Plans: Number of modems currently in use: A little description of what your modems do and are used for: Have you incorporated slip, ppp, ara etc?: What do you use as a back end to the modems: Thanks, Ray Kopp Syracuse, New York Internet:rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu From rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu Wed Jul 5 13:50:35 1995

Alright since I started this I will fill in first. On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Ray Kopp wrote: > Ok now that this is somewhat started how about some input from everyone. > > Suggestions: > Name:Ray Kopp > Organization:Syracuse University > Types of Modems: USR V.32 bix couriers > Type of racks: old TC 32 and newer Enterprise Hubs (interlinked by IRB) > Type of management you are using:DOS based Total Control > Future Plans:Upgrading to V.34, and probably to SNMP management > Number of modems currently in use:144 71 with a 4 hour limit, 70 with a one hour limit and the rest are emergency and test lines. > A little description of what your modems do and are used for:Our modems are used for students, staff, and faculty to dialin from home for class assignments and any other purpose they see fit > Have you incorporated slip, ppp, ara etc?:We currently have a package designed mainly from Public Domain software (a couple of site licensed packaged though) to provide slip access. We are still in developement for PPP and ARA and also as an aside (not going to utilize these modems at all) remote node etc. Also interested and starting a test for ISDN. Our ISDN test is not on these modems either. Although USR has announced a V.34 I Courier modem that will support 221zISDN. Not too sure about all this yet, got to contact our rep. > > What do you use as a back end to the modems: We use one 112 port Cisco ASM which we hope to phase out due to speed limitations (38.4 max). Also have some cisco 2511s, the communications server that USR and Cisco are working on together that you now can get that will slid into the Enterprise Network Hub. > > Thanks, > Ray Kopp > Syracuse, New York > Internet:rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu > > > From rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu Mon Jul 10 13:21:12 1995

> Ok now that this is somewhat started how about some input from everyone. > > Suggestions: > Name: Holger Koepke > Organization: MMS GmbH (German USR Distributor) > Types of Modems: USR Courier Standalone, Quad- and Dual cards (V.34) > Type of racks: Chassis 16 slot > Type of management you are using: USR NMC > Future Plans: S2M & ISDN > Number of modems currently in use: 24 > A little description of what your modems do and are used for: Dial-In/ dial-out for Unix, PPP/SLIP/CSLIP/IPX-connectivity, Lotus Notes, faxserver, leased-line for internet-connectivity > Have you incorporated slip, ppp, ara etc?: > > What do you use as a back end to the modems: Lotus Notes, Unix, Livingston & USR terminalserver, FaxNow faxserver, -- Expressed opinions are mine and not necessarily those of MMS GmbH. * Holger Koepke | U.S.Robotics |tel.: +49 40 211105-0 * * Eiffestr.598 | Distribution |fax : +49 40 21032210 * * 20537 Hamburg | |holger@mms-gmbh.de * * Fed. Rep. of Germany | MMS GmbH |www.mms-gmbh.de/~holger * From POP3server Wed Jul 11 07:53:17 GMT 1995 Return-Path: <owner-usrtc@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Received: from listserv.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (8.6.9/SUM-V8-1.0) id DAA15743; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 03:34:27 -0400 Received: from listserv.syr.edu (listserv@listserv.syr.edu [128.230.1.252]) by listserv.syr.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA27506; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 03:34:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199507110734.DAA27506@listserv.syr.edu> Reply-To: holger@mms-gmbh.de Sender: US Robotics Total Control Product <USRTC@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Comments: Authenticated sender is <holger@mail>

We have a situation that I thought maybe I'd ask some users about. I will also be posing them to some USR techs but I thought I'd ask here first. We currently have 4 racks of the old single modem card, V.32 bis racks, called the Total Control Rack 32. We also have 4 racks of the newer Enterprise Hub style dual card racks. We manage them by the DOS Total Control Program. We have ordered 8 V.34 modems for the newer racks. Will I still be able to manage them all as one cluster? What is the actual name of the program to upload from USR to upgrade our management to be capable of managing the V.34 modems and is this applicable to the old Rack 32 modem racks also. Do you need an update also for the HCU's/RCU's also? If so what is that name. For you SNMP users. We plan on upgrading to this management method but there are a couple of things holding us back. We have a lab for a computer magazine right next store and I've been able to play a little with this managment system, but the person running the lab said that he has had cases where when he copies a modem config to another modem, some- times he will find that it didn't copy properly. USR said they knew of the problem and were going to send him an upgrade, but so far he hasn't seen it. Anyone have any comments on this or seen the newer version and does it indeed solve the problem? Thanks, Ray Kopp Syracuse, New York Internet:rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu From rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu Wed Jul 19 09:07:16 1995

> We have a situation that I thought maybe I'd ask some users about. I will > also be posing them to some USR techs but I thought I'd ask here first. > > We currently have 4 racks of the old single modem card, V.32 bis racks, > called the Total Control Rack 32. We also have 4 racks of the newer > Enterprise Hub style dual card racks. We manage them by the DOS > Total Control Program. > > We have ordered 8 V.34 modems for the newer racks. Will I still be able > to manage them all as one cluster? NO! The new Rack-architecture is unfortunally not compatibel with the old one. > > What is the actual name of the program to upload from USR to upgrade our > management to be capable of managing the V.34 modems and is this applicable > to the old Rack 32 modem racks also. See above.. > > For you SNMP users. We plan on upgrading to this management method but > there are a couple of things holding us back. We have a lab for a > computer magazine right next store and I've been able to play a little > with this managment system, but the person running the lab said that he > has had cases where when he copies a modem config to another modem, some- > times he will find that it didn't copy properly. USR said they knew of the > problem and were going to send him an upgrade, but so far he hasn't seen > it. Anyone have any comments on this or seen the newer version and does > it indeed solve the problem? > I don't know which version you are using, but fortunally I haven't seen this problem. > Thanks, > Ray Kopp Greetings from Germany, Holger -- Expressed opinions are mine and not necessarily those of MMS GmbH. * Holger Koepke | U.S.Robotics |tel.: +49 40 211105-0 * * Eiffestr.598 | Distribution |fax : +49 40 21032210 * * 20537 Hamburg | |holger@mms-gmbh.de * * Fed. Rep. of Germany | MMS GmbH |www.mms-gmbh.de/~holger * From rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu Wed Jul 5 13:43:16 1995

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From rjkopp@mailbox.syr.eduWed Jul 19 09:06:25 1995

Following comes from the USR FTP-site. The V.34+ code will be availible for the TC modem too, but there should be some time for implementing.. Greetings, Holger ----------------------- CUT HERE ------------------------- USRobotics Introduces 33.6 Kbps Welcome to the next level of high speed analog data communications - 33.6 Kbps. Your Courier modem contains new enhanced V.34 software that provides the capability for two new connection rates: 31.2 Kbps and 33.6 Kbps. The new software also improves general throughput as a result of advanced design, larger block sizes, and the implementation of selective reject. Higher Connection Rates While line conditions may not always allow for 33.6 connections, the new software enhances overall performance and reliability, making it more likely to achieve and maintain 28.8 connections. It can even add up to 4800 bps to your average V.34 connection rate. Selective Reject Selective reject is part of the improved software for the "V.Everything" modem. You may notice significant throughput improvements over noisy lines when connecting with other modems using this feature, as the number of retransmitted blocks is reduced. Upgrades 31.2 and 33.6 Kbps connection rates are only possible when connecting with other "V.Everything" modems upgraded to the latest software revision. Be sure that friends and business associates using U.S. Robotics Courier modems upgrade to the new V.34 software, so that they too can take advantage of the higher connection rates and improved throughput capabilities. Upgrades are free to anyone who owns a U.S. Robotics "V.Everything" modem. Simply download the new software from our free BBS service. Complete instructions for performing software upgrades are included in the Courier manual. New Parameters Result Codes The following new verbal connect messages and numeric result codes are included. Verbal Numeric --------------------- ------- CONNECT 31200 151 CONNECT 31200/ARQ 152 CONNECT 31200/V34 153 CONNECT 31200/ARQ/V34 154 CONNECT 33600 155 CONNECT 33600/ARQ 156 CONNECT 33600/V34 157 CONNECT 33600/ARQ/V34 158 New Inquiry Displays The ATI6 diagnostic screen has an extended protocol field which displays the actual block and window sizes, and indicates when selective reject has been negotiated. The I11 screen displays "V34+" for connections with other U.S. Robotics modems using the new V.34 software. Fixed Connection Rate The &N command for fixing connection rates has been extended to support the two new speeds, adding &N15 (31.2 Kbps) and &N16 (33.6 Kbps). Feature Disable 31.2 and 33.6 Kbps may be disabled by issuing the following AT command: AT S56.5=1 Selective reject can be disabled by issuing the following command: AT S51.6=1 Disabling of these features is only necessary for certain troubleshooting purposes. Synchronous Fixed synchronous mode can also operate at 31.2 and 33.6 Kbps under V.34 with the new software upgrade. The maximum synchronous rate under V.25bis is 19.2 Kbps. [1.024.419] -- Expressed opinions are mine and not necessarily those of MMS. Holger Koepke U.S.Robotics tel.: +49 40 211105-0 Eiffestr.598 Distribution fax : +49 40 21032210 20537 Hamburg holger@mms-gmbh.de Germany MMS GmbH www.mms-gmbh.de/~holger From POP3server Thu Jul 19 14:02:55 GMT 1995 Return-Path: <owner-usrtc@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Received: from listserv.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (8.6.9/SUM-V8-1.0) id JAA04069; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:34:12 -0400 Received: from listserv.syr.edu (listserv@listserv.syr.edu [128.230.1.252]) by listserv.syr.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA08130; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:34:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199507191334.JAA08130@listserv.syr.edu> Reply-To: holger@mms-gmbh.de Sender: US Robotics Total Control Product <USRTC@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Comments: Authenticated sender is <holger@mail>

Following comes from the USR FTP-site. The V.34+ code will be availible for the TC modem too, but there should be some time for implementing.. Greetings, Holger ----------------------- CUT HERE ------------------------- USRobotics Introduces 33.6 Kbps Welcome to the next level of high speed analog data communications - 33.6 Kbps. Your Courier modem contains new enhanced V.34 software that provides the capability for two new connection rates: 31.2 Kbps and 33.6 Kbps. The new software also improves general throughput as a result of advanced design, larger block sizes, and the implementation of selective reject. Higher Connection Rates While line conditions may not always allow for 33.6 connections, the new software enhances overall performance and reliability, making it more likely to achieve and maintain 28.8 connections. It can even add up to 4800 bps to your average V.34 connection rate. Selective Reject Selective reject is part of the improved software for the "V.Everything" modem. You may notice significant throughput improvements over noisy lines when connecting with other modems using this feature, as the number of retransmitted blocks is reduced. Upgrades 31.2 and 33.6 Kbps connection rates are only possible when connecting with other "V.Everything" modems upgraded to the latest software revision. Be sure that friends and business associates using U.S. Robotics Courier modems upgrade to the new V.34 software, so that they too can take advantage of the higher connection rates and improved throughput capabilities. Upgrades are free to anyone who owns a U.S. Robotics "V.Everything" modem. Simply download the new software from our free BBS service. Complete instructions for performing software upgrades are included in the Courier manual. New Parameters Result Codes The following new verbal connect messages and numeric result codes are included. Verbal Numeric --------------------- ------- CONNECT 31200 151 CONNECT 31200/ARQ 152 CONNECT 31200/V34 153 CONNECT 31200/ARQ/V34 154 CONNECT 33600 155 CONNECT 33600/ARQ 156 CONNECT 33600/V34 157 CONNECT 33600/ARQ/V34 158 New Inquiry Displays The ATI6 diagnostic screen has an extended protocol field which displays the actual block and window sizes, and indicates when selective reject has been negotiated. The I11 screen displays "V34+" for connections with other U.S. Robotics modems using the new V.34 software. Fixed Connection Rate The &N command for fixing connection rates has been extended to support the two new speeds, adding &N15 (31.2 Kbps) and &N16 (33.6 Kbps). Feature Disable 31.2 and 33.6 Kbps may be disabled by issuing the following AT command: AT S56.5=1 Selective reject can be disabled by issuing the following command: AT S51.6=1 Disabling of these features is only necessary for certain troubleshooting purposes. Synchronous Fixed synchronous mode can also operate at 31.2 and 33.6 Kbps under V.34 with the new software upgrade. The maximum synchronous rate under V.25bis is 19.2 Kbps. [1.024.419] -- Expressed opinions are mine and not necessarily those of MMS. Holger Koepke U.S.Robotics tel.: +49 40 211105-0 Eiffestr.598 Distribution fax : +49 40 21032210 20537 Hamburg holger@mms-gmbh.de Germany MMS GmbH www.mms-gmbh.de/~holger From POP3server Sat Jul 21 18:22:07 GMT 1995 Return-Path: <owner-usrtc@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Received: from listserv.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (8.6.9/SUM-V8-1.0) id OAA24860; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 14:06:39 -0400 Received: from listserv.syr.edu (listserv@listserv.syr.edu [128.230.1.252]) by listserv.syr.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA15213; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 14:06:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199507211806.OAA15213@listserv.syr.edu> Reply-To: norton@CCMAILPC.CTRON.COM Sender: US Robotics Total Control Product <USRTC@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>

I predict that "remote access" as we know it with a PC running remote-node/control software with modem->POTS->modem->communications server->network will go away in the not to distant future in favor of PC w/NIC->bridge/router->ISDN switched network->bridge/router->network. Where the translation between Application layer and Network layer occurs at the remote sight, and the communications server no longer has to support the hot Network-OS of the day problem. Since that seems to be what the Combinets-Ascends-Gandalfs(sp?) are up to - what if any of these products have you tried - what do like - what don't you like - how comfortable/uncomfortable are you with the security. Alternatively would you prefer to stick with a "commserver" concept only using ISDN as the physical transport yet use "access technology" similar to what we use now???? Of course all my wondering/wishing is predicated on the idea that I could actually get an ISDN line installed by NYNEX(not). I would be curious to hear what USR tells you about their ISDN direction. USR isn't exactly known for their bridge/router??? -dn- ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: Ray Kopp <rjkopp@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU> at !INTERNET At Syracuse we are starting up an ISDN project. U.S. Robotics has been out supplier of modems for the past 5 years about, so we are kind of pushing for more info. We are supposed to meet with some USR people soon. We are at a key point where we have to make a large upgrade to our modems and ISDN may play a key role in it. In our tests and evaluations and information gathering of ISDN products we are finding that some vendors are setting themselves up very good to be very still competition. Many are coming out with products which can be used with analog lines until the ISDN is available. It sounds quite interesting and I have a feeling that we're going to be looking at a rush pretty soon by vendors to support ISDN or fall by the wayside. We'll see I guess. I've also suggested to our rep that some of their people might want to join this group and get involved in it. In fact I may ask them what I can post here in relation to what they tell us. Thanks, Ray Kopp CMS, Network Systems rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu 217 Machinery Hall (315)443-5776 On Fri, 21 Jul 1995, Dave Norton wrote: > Hi, > > What if anything are any of you doing about ISDN support? What have you > heard from USR with regards to ISDN PRI or BRI support for TC? > > -dn- > From POP3server Sat Jul 21 21:22:46 GMT 1995 Return-Path: <norton@ccmailpc.ctron.com>

>On Fri, 21 Jul 1995, Dave Norton wrote: > >> I predict that "remote access" as we know it with a PC running >> remote-node/control software with modem->POTS->modem->communications >> server->network will go away in the not to distant future in favor of PC >> w/NIC->bridge/router->ISDN switched network->bridge/router->network. >Wher e >> the translation between Application layer and Network layer occurs at >the > remote sight, and the communications server no longer has to support >the > hot Network-OS of the day problem. > >No doubt about it. Except that it will take long enough to completely >merge so that the people with modems that have a hard time giving up old >things will probably hang on for a while. Places like Universities tend to >have to support both for longer I would imagine than Businesses do. > I can see that to some extent - however I would anticipate that more in the compuserve/prodigy environments then in the remote networking environments. My experience with remote networkers today is that they are the "power-user" hence they want the higher speed. Look at all the folks that jump from V.32 to V.32bis to V.fast/fc/terbo now let's all move to V.34 and then ohhhh look now it's V.34xxx with the 33.xKbps - but the same people that complained that I didn't have V.34 the day it was ratified and still don't have every modem up to V.34 now will soon pitch their V.34s for the new latest and greatest modem speed. ARGHHHHHHHHh - get me off this merry-go-round. >> >> Since that seems to be what the Combinets-Ascends-Gandalfs(sp?) are up >to - >> what if any of these products have you tried - what do like - what >don't > you like - how comfortable/uncomfortable are you with the >security. >> Alternatively would you prefer to stick with a "commserver" concept only >> using ISDN as the physical transport yet use "access technology" similar >t o >> what we use now???? > >We are looking closely at the Ascend product and it looks pretty sharp. >U.S.R. knows they are going to be stiff competition. Hopefully they will >react soon. I'd be curious to hear what you like and don't like about Ascend >> >> Of course all my wondering/wishing is predicated on the idea that I >could > actually get an ISDN line installed by NYNEX(not). I would be >curious to > hear what USR tells you about their ISDN direction. USR >isn't exactly >> known for their bridge/router??? > >This has been our problem for quite a while, however now after Nynex >bought out New York Tel and they are stabilizing somewhat (shifting some >management and techs around, I think they have realized that their >policy towards ISDN was lacking. I know we were beginning to talk to >cable >companies and we have a sizeable contract with NYNEX so they got concerned. > >Now here in Syracuse they expect to have their main office ISDN BRI by >mid-August. We'll see how it tricles down to other locations I guess. >Where are you at? New Hampshire >Thanks, >Ray Kopp >Syracuse, New York >Internet:rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu > >> >> -dn- > >> >> -dn- From POP3server Tue Jul 24 19:32:29 GMT 1995 Return-Path: <rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu> Received: from syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (8.6.9/SUM-V8-1.0) id PAA28120; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 15:19:25 -0400 Received: from cs.syr.edu by syr.edu (8.6.9/CNS) id PAA11513; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 15:19:23 -0400 Received: from CS/SpoolDir by cs.syr.edu (Mercury 1.21); 24 Jul 95 15:19:03 EDT Received: from SpoolDir by CS (Mercury 1.21); 24 Jul 95 15:18:43 EDT

Greg's plane won't arive until 9:05 so we needed to move the meeting to 10 to 11:30 still in room 214 MH. Sorry, hopefully everyone will still be able to make it. Thanks, Ray Kopp CMS, Network Systems rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu 217 Machinery Hall (315)443-5776 From POP3server Fri Aug 3 21:32:46 GMT 1995 Return-Path: <jlacour@usr.com> Received: from usr.com by mailbox.syr.edu (8.6.9/SUM-V8-1.0) id RAA16844; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 17:08:43 -0400 Received: from robogate.usr.com ([149.112.2.203]) by usr.com (4.1/3.1.090690-US Robotics ) id AA05232; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:00:32 CDT Received: from cc:Mail by robogate.usr.com id AA807491360; Thu, 03 Aug 95 16:02:26 CST