August 2001

Subject: (usr-tc) reconfig running HiPer
From: Ray Bagby <rbagby@yore.net>
Date: 2001-08-03 08:36:45

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C11BF7.6DB2F000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, I've been running for almost 3 years with the same config and now I = needed to change all the IP numbers. I was able to use a combination of HARM and the console connection = to the HiPer Arc to get the IP changed on the Arc and the IP pool = changed but the problem I'm having is with the NMC. I changed the user = interface information on the NMC in the TCM and clicked the Set button = but after changing the IP on the NT box where I run TCM and the = accounting stuff I can't ping the NMC and can't bring it up on TCM. If I = change the IP on the NT box back I can see the NMC using TCM and the = information I put in there is still there. I haven't been able to = console into the NMC either. Do you use the same cable that you console = into the HiPer Arc with? Thanks for anyhelp, Ray ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C11BF7.6DB2F000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greetings,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>    I've been running = for almost 3=20 years with the same config and now I needed to change all the IP=20 numbers.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>    I was able to use a = combination=20 of HARM and the console connection to the HiPer Arc to get the IP = changed on the=20 Arc and the IP pool changed but the problem I'm having is with the NMC. = I=20 changed the user interface information on the NMC in the TCM and clicked = the Set=20 button but after changing the IP on the NT box where I run TCM and the=20 accounting stuff I can't ping the NMC and can't bring it up on TCM. If I = change=20 the IP on the NT box back I can see the NMC using TCM and the = information I put=20 in there is still there. I haven't been able to console into the NMC = either. Do=20 you use the same cable that you console into the HiPer Arc = with?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>    Thanks for = anyhelp,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>    = Ray</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C11BF7.6DB2F000--

Subject: (usr-tc) Discarding OSPF LSA's due to "bad IP Dest"
From: Mark Ivens <mivens@clara.net>
Date: 2001-08-03 10:55:48

Anyone seen this before and know how to get more information about what destination the ARC is complaining out? Aug 3 10:46:29 fat-rk-38.access.clara.net At 09:46:28, Facility "OSPF Facility", Level "UNUSUAL":: [ospf_rxpkt] Discard IP packet, bad IP Dest Aug 3 10:46:29 fat-rk-38.access.clara.net last message repeated 5 times Aug 3 10:46:29 fat-rk-38.access.clara.net At 09:46:28, Facility "OSPF Facility", Level "COMMON":: [ospf_rxpkt] Link-State Update Aug 3 10:46:29 fat-rk-38.access.clara.net At 09:46:28, Facility "OSPF Facility", Level "UNUSUAL":: [ospf_rxpkt] Discard IP packet, bad IP Dest Aug 3 10:46:29 fat-rk-38.access.clara.net last message repeated 14 times System Version: V5.1.99/Non-Encr -- Mark Ivens mivens@clara.net "You can't fight in here, this Systems Administrator is the War Room!" - The ClaraNET UK Ltd President, "Dr. Strangelove"

Subject: (usr-tc) HyperArc Accounting problem...
From: Mark Thornton <mark@corridor.net>
Date: 2001-08-06 11:20:06

Friday evening all of my 3Com hubs developed problems with the accounting function. First, the radius server came under so much load that it stopped processing authentication packets at all. During the course of evaluation I diabled accounting on each chassis and the problem went away. I then reconfigured the accounting and reenabled, but I am not getting any accoungint packets at the radius server, nor does the 'monitor radius' command indicate the chassis is creating any. I'm lost. Any ideas? HiPer>> show accounting RADIUS ACCOUNTING SETTINGS The Primary Server Status is: ENABLED Primary Server is: 63.90.208.3 Primary First Backup Server is: 0.0.0.0 Primary Second Backup Server is: 0.0.0.0 Primary Destination Port is: 1646 Primary First Backup Destination Port: 1646 Primary Second Backup Destination Port: 1646 Primary Preference: 1 Primary First Backup Preference: 2 Primary Second Backup Preference: 2 Max Primary Retransmissions: 5 The Secondary Server Status is: DISABLED Secondary Server is: 0.0.0.0 Secondary First Backup Server is: 0.0.0.0 Secondary Second Backup Server is: 0.0.0.0 Secondary Destination Port is: 1646 Secondary First Backup Destination Port: 1646 Secondary Second Backup Destination Port: 1646 Secondary Preference : 2 Secondary First Backup Preference: 2 Secondary Second Backup Preference: 2 Max Secondary Retransmissions: 0 Source Port is: 1646 Retransmission Timeout: 30 seconds Per Server Retry Count 3 Accounting Start Time: AUTHENTICATION Log Unauthenticated Calls: DISABLED Vendor Specific Attribute: ENABLED Call Detail Record in Accounting STOP: ENABLED Active Accounting Server (Primary): 63.90.208.3 Active Accounting Server (Secondary): 0.0.0.0 Attribute Style: STANDARD VTP Tunnel Flag: BOTH Prioritize First Server in a Server Group: DISABLED Accounting Counters Syslogs: DISABLED Accounting Counters Syslog Frequency: TWELVE HOURS Accounting Counters Syslog Reset: DISABLED Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) HyperArc Accounting problem...
From: Mark Thornton <mark@corridor.net>
Date: 2001-08-06 11:48:08

I seem to have recovered the acounting function. In 3Com's infinite wisdom you can have the primary accounting server enabled and show as enabled, but overall accounting disabled and not shown anywhere. I still odn't know what let loose and was hosing my radius server though. Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 11:20 AM > Friday evening all of my 3Com hubs developed problems with the accounting > function. First, the radius server came under so much load that it stopped > processing authentication packets at all. During the course of evaluation I > diabled accounting on each chassis and the problem went away. I then > reconfigured the accounting and reenabled, but I am not getting any > accoungint packets at the radius server, nor does the 'monitor radius' > command indicate the chassis is creating any. I'm lost. Any ideas? > > HiPer>> show accounting > > RADIUS ACCOUNTING SETTINGS > The Primary Server Status is: ENABLED > Primary Server is: 63.90.208.3 > Primary First Backup Server is: 0.0.0.0 > Primary Second Backup Server is: 0.0.0.0 > Primary Destination Port is: 1646 > Primary First Backup Destination Port: 1646 > Primary Second Backup Destination Port: 1646 > Primary Preference: 1 > Primary First Backup Preference: 2 > Primary Second Backup Preference: 2 > Max Primary Retransmissions: 5 > The Secondary Server Status is: DISABLED > Secondary Server is: 0.0.0.0 > Secondary First Backup Server is: 0.0.0.0 > Secondary Second Backup Server is: 0.0.0.0 > Secondary Destination Port is: 1646 > Secondary First Backup Destination Port: 1646 > Secondary Second Backup Destination Port: 1646 > Secondary Preference : 2 > Secondary First Backup Preference: 2 > Secondary Second Backup Preference: 2 > Max Secondary Retransmissions: 0 > Source Port is: 1646 > Retransmission Timeout: 30 seconds > Per Server Retry Count 3 > Accounting Start Time: AUTHENTICATION > Log Unauthenticated Calls: DISABLED > Vendor Specific Attribute: ENABLED > Call Detail Record in Accounting STOP: ENABLED > Active Accounting Server (Primary): 63.90.208.3 > Active Accounting Server (Secondary): 0.0.0.0 > Attribute Style: STANDARD > VTP Tunnel Flag: BOTH > Prioritize First Server in a Server Group: DISABLED > Accounting Counters Syslogs: DISABLED > Accounting Counters Syslog Frequency: TWELVE HOURS > Accounting Counters Syslog Reset: DISABLED > > > Mark Thornton > San Marcos Internet, Inc > 512-393-5300 > > > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) reconfig running HiPer
From: Jonathan Byrne <byrnej@gol.com>
Date: 2001-08-06 13:16:40

Ray Bagby (rbagby@yore.net) wrote: > I changed the user interface information on the NMC in the TCM and > clicked the Set button but after changing the IP on the NT box where > I run TCM and the accounting stuff I can't ping the NMC and can't bring > it up on TCM. If I change the IP on the NT box back I can see the NMC using > TCM and the information I put in there is still there. Do you mean you can't ping it or see it in TCM on the old address or the new address? It sounds like you mean that you have changed the IP on the NMC but it still answers to the old IP. Is that correct? Does it still do this if you reboot the NMC (be sure to save the NVRAM first, from the File menu in TCM). > I haven't been able to console into the NMC either. Do you use the > same cable that you console into the HiPer Arc with? Yes, but the speed will be different. The speed on the NMC can be anything from 9600 to 57600, selectable by the DIP switches on the NMC NAC. Set switches 1 and 2 to off for 9600, on for 57600. I recommend 57600; it works much better if you ever have to flash the NMC over the console port :-) It sounds like you are in the same location as the chassis, so it would be worth pulling the NMC NAC out to check. The DIP switches are very near the bottom front of the card, just behind the face plate. If switches 1 and 2 aren't set to on, switch them to on, then make a 57600 console connection. HTH, Jonathan Byrne, CCNA Network Engineer Exodus Communications, K.K. Engineering Division http://www.exodus.co.jp/ http://www.gol.com/

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) HyperArc Accounting problem...
From: Mark Thornton <mark@corridor.net>
Date: 2001-08-06 13:35:09

We are now having problems with one of our chassis' getting an out-of-sync accounting packet error. It leads me to believe there is a problem with time configuration. How do I set the timezone and ntp correctly to effect the correct local time? Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 11:20 AM > Friday evening all of my 3Com hubs developed problems with the accounting > function. First, the radius server came under so much load that it stopped > processing authentication packets at all. During the course of evaluation I > diabled accounting on each chassis and the problem went away. I then > reconfigured the accounting and reenabled, but I am not getting any > accoungint packets at the radius server, nor does the 'monitor radius' > command indicate the chassis is creating any. I'm lost. Any ideas? > > HiPer>> show accounting > > RADIUS ACCOUNTING SETTINGS > The Primary Server Status is: ENABLED > Primary Server is: 63.90.208.3 > Primary First Backup Server is: 0.0.0.0 > Primary Second Backup Server is: 0.0.0.0 > Primary Destination Port is: 1646 > Primary First Backup Destination Port: 1646 > Primary Second Backup Destination Port: 1646 > Primary Preference: 1 > Primary First Backup Preference: 2 > Primary Second Backup Preference: 2 > Max Primary Retransmissions: 5 > The Secondary Server Status is: DISABLED > Secondary Server is: 0.0.0.0 > Secondary First Backup Server is: 0.0.0.0 > Secondary Second Backup Server is: 0.0.0.0 > Secondary Destination Port is: 1646 > Secondary First Backup Destination Port: 1646 > Secondary Second Backup Destination Port: 1646 > Secondary Preference : 2 > Secondary First Backup Preference: 2 > Secondary Second Backup Preference: 2 > Max Secondary Retransmissions: 0 > Source Port is: 1646 > Retransmission Timeout: 30 seconds > Per Server Retry Count 3 > Accounting Start Time: AUTHENTICATION > Log Unauthenticated Calls: DISABLED > Vendor Specific Attribute: ENABLED > Call Detail Record in Accounting STOP: ENABLED > Active Accounting Server (Primary): 63.90.208.3 > Active Accounting Server (Secondary): 0.0.0.0 > Attribute Style: STANDARD > VTP Tunnel Flag: BOTH > Prioritize First Server in a Server Group: DISABLED > Accounting Counters Syslogs: DISABLED > Accounting Counters Syslog Frequency: TWELVE HOURS > Accounting Counters Syslog Reset: DISABLED > > > Mark Thornton > San Marcos Internet, Inc > 512-393-5300 > > > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) HyperArc Accounting problem...
From: Mark Thornton <mark@corridor.net>
Date: 2001-08-06 13:56:44

The odd thing is all the servers were showing the same time, local plus 5 hours (GMT). One of the machines was generating the error with the radius server and the problem went away when I set it's time to the local value. The other servers are still set to utc and are working correctly. Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 1:44 PM > Also sprach Mark Thornton > >We are now having problems with one of our chassis' getting an > >out-of-sync accounting packet error. It leads me to believe there is a > >problem with time configuration. How do I set the timezone and ntp > >correctly to effect the correct local time? > > The timezone only affects (or *should* only affect...haven't > double-checked this) the *display* of the time. NTP always talks in > UTC, so the timezone setting doesn't matter. > > set ntp primary_server <ip address> > set ntp secondary_server <ip address> > enable ntp > > Should sync your Arc time with your NTP servers chosen. > -- > Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com > Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 > IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) HyperArc Accounting problem...
From: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com>
Date: 2001-08-06 14:44:32

Also sprach Mark Thornton >We are now having problems with one of our chassis' getting an >out-of-sync accounting packet error. It leads me to believe there is a >problem with time configuration. How do I set the timezone and ntp >correctly to effect the correct local time? The timezone only affects (or *should* only affect...haven't double-checked this) the *display* of the time. NTP always talks in UTC, so the timezone setting doesn't matter. set ntp primary_server <ip address> set ntp secondary_server <ip address> enable ntp Should sync your Arc time with your NTP servers chosen. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456

Subject: (usr-tc) FS: Hiper DSP's and Hiper ARC's
From: ISP-NetworkHardware.com <sales@isp-networkhardware.com>
Date: 2001-08-06 16:21:55

I have available the following hardware: Hiper DSP card sets $1600 Hiper ARC card sets $1000 Qty available.

Subject: (usr-tc) FS: 3Com Hiper DSP E1
From: ISP-NetworkHardware.com <sales@isp-networkhardware.com>
Date: 2001-08-06 17:10:59

I have the following available. 2- Hiper DSP E1 modem card sets $3000.00ea

Subject: (usr-tc) FS: Used Total Control Equipment.
From: Jason Percle <jjperc@petronet.net>
Date: 2001-08-10 14:35:51

We have the following used equipment for sale: Total Control Chassis - $8200, includes: Integrated Fan Tray. 5 - HiperDSP Cards. 1 - HiperARC Card. 1 - NMC Card. 2 - 70A Power Supplies. Total Control Chassis - $4500, includes: Integrated Fan Tray. 2 - HiperDSP Cards. 1 - HiperARC Card. 1 - NMC Card. 1 - 70A Power Supply. Total Control Chassis - $1500, includes: Fan Tray. 1 - Dual PRI Card. 5 - Quad Digital Modems. 7 - Quad Digital/Analog Modems. 1 - Netserver/PRI Card. 1 - NMC Card. 2 - 45A Power Supplies. Total Control Chassis - $700, includes: Fan Tray. 6 - Quad Digital/Analog Modems. 1 - Netserver/PRI Card. 2 - 45A Power Supplies. *Needs a Dual PRI/T1 Card and NMC Card. If interested or any inquiries, email ggreen@petronet.net or call 985-385-2219 - ask for Greg.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) FS: Used Total Control Equipment.
From: thomas_goodman@3com.com
Date: 2001-08-13 09:45:40

Greg, Your used equipment is worth more than you are asking and it does not have HiPer NMCs required for v.92. CommWorks has rebate programs that can net you more cash if you purchase new gear to replace what you are selling. Note: $8200 for 5 HiPer DSPs or 120 ports is $68/port If you purchase a Multi-Span Chassis (96 ports, Dual 130A, New ARC, 333MHz NMC and a Multi-Span Card (96 ports) 192 ports total you can get the following rebates. $90 x first 96 ports in chassis bundle = $8640 $40 x second 96 ports = $3840 Total = $12,480 in rebates or $65/port @ 192 ports (The rebate/port slides as you add additional blades to the same base unit) Since you have 7 total HiPer DSPs for sale x 24 port = 168 ports $90 x first 96 ports in chassis bundle = $8640 $40 x second 72 ports turned in = $2880 Total = $11,520 or $68.57/port There is also a program for Quad Card Upgrades to HiPer @ $50 on Double Plays or $75 per port on HiPer Starter Bundles and you can also move all the way to the Multi-Span at the $40 on Multi-Span Blades and $90 on Multi-Span Chassis See the web sites for rules/descriptions and forms. http://www.commworks.com/svprovider/programs/total_control_eds/promos.html Call your authorized reseller to see if we can put together a better deal then selling off used or buying used. Thanks, Tom Goodman thomas_goodman@3Com.com CommWorks Channel Sales 847-262-1039 Jason Percle <jjperc@petronet.net> on 08/10/2001 02:35:51 PM Please respond to usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Sent by: Jason Percle <jjperc@petronet.net> cc: (Thomas Goodman/MW/US/3Com) We have the following used equipment for sale: Total Control Chassis - $8200, includes: Integrated Fan Tray. 5 - HiperDSP Cards. 1 - HiperARC Card. 1 - NMC Card. 2 - 70A Power Supplies. Total Control Chassis - $4500, includes: Integrated Fan Tray. 2 - HiperDSP Cards. 1 - HiperARC Card. 1 - NMC Card. 1 - 70A Power Supply. Total Control Chassis - $1500, includes: Fan Tray. 1 - Dual PRI Card. 5 - Quad Digital Modems. 7 - Quad Digital/Analog Modems. 1 - Netserver/PRI Card. 1 - NMC Card. 2 - 45A Power Supplies. Total Control Chassis - $700, includes: Fan Tray. 6 - Quad Digital/Analog Modems. 1 - Netserver/PRI Card. 2 - 45A Power Supplies. *Needs a Dual PRI/T1 Card and NMC Card. If interested or any inquiries, email ggreen@petronet.net or call 985-385-2219 - ask for Greg. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) FS: Used Total Control Equipment.
From: Kirk Mitchell <mitch@keyconn.net>
Date: 2001-08-13 14:02:14

At 09:45 AM 8/13/01 -0500, Thomas_Goodman@3com.com wrote: > > >Greg, > >Your used equipment is worth more than you are asking and it does not have HiPer >NMCs required for v.92. Geez, we haven't seen anybody from 3Com on the list in ages, and when someone shows up he's telling people to sell their used stuff at higher prices! Just kidding Tom, good to see ya! -- Kirk Mitchell-General Manager mitch@keyconn.net Keystone Connect Unlock Your World Altoona, PA 814-941-5000 http://www.keyconn.net

Subject: (usr-tc) connect string of Analog QMCs
From: Michael Smirnov <smbsmb@mail.ru>
Date: 2001-08-14 17:11:23

I have a TotalControl 1000 with NetServer Card and some analog Quad Modem Cards. Is there a way to get a modem "CONNECT" string via SNMP or whatever? It contains many useful info I'd like to log. I will try to do it in a script which executes on Radius auth packets.

Subject: (usr-tc) SNMP on NetServer Card,NMC and Chassis
From: Michael Smirnov <smbsmb@mail.ru>
Date: 2001-08-14 17:23:57

I have a TotalControl 1000 with NetServer Card, NMC and some analog Quad Modem Cards. A twisted-pair cable is connected to Netserver Card, but NMC is not connected to a cable at all. There is a MIB file ftp://ftp.3com.com/pub/rapd/usr_nets.zip However, 1.3.6.1.4.1.429.4.10.1.1.18 enterprises.usRobotics.common.usrCip.usrCipPortParamTable.usrCipPortParamEnt ry.usrCipUserName doesn't work when I try to use it on a NetServer Card's IP address :-((( I found that on my NetServer Card there is no OIDs, beginning with 1.3.6.1.4.1.429 Using a network scanner, I found something with another IP address: 3Com 17-Slot Chassis with PB clocking Ther are some OIDs beginning with 1.3.6.1.4.1.429, but 1.3.6.1.4.1.429.4.10.1.1.18 doesn't exist :-(((( What should I do to make this OID work?

Subject: RE: (usr-tc) FS: USR/3Com Total Control, MP, Netservers and more.
From: Mark E. Levy <mark@fsi.net>
Date: 2001-08-15 10:33:58

> WTB: HIPER NMC sets I need to upgrade to the P5 HiperNMC. I currently have the 486-based Hiper NMC. Please quote a price for the upgrade. -- Mark E. Levy FSInet, Inc. 800-827-6085 x202 847-753-6832 fax www.fsi.net mark@fsi.net

Subject: (usr-tc) FS: USR/3Com Total Control, MP, Netservers and more.
From: ISP-NetworkHardware.com <sales@isp-networkhardware.com>
Date: 2001-08-15 11:22:22

WRCA.Net has the following available. All refurbished with 30 day warranty. Hiper DSP T1 $1500 Hiper DSP E1 $2500 Hiper ARC's $1000 EdgeServer PRO $1000 ADSL CellMux $500 WTB: HIPER NMC sets NMC V90 Netserver PRI Dual T1/E1 Dual PRI AS5100 Router cards Quad Digital Modems Quad Analog Modems Wuad Analog/Digital Modems Chassis's Fan Trays 70A power supplies Netserver 16 v34 Netserver 16I (international Version) Netserver 8I Netserver 8 v34 MMP16 v34 MP16 v34 MP8 v34 Call or email for further pricing.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) cheat sheet for command line config
From: John Mies <john@cambert.com>
Date: 2001-08-17 09:51:11

Is this still around somewhere? At 10:47 AM 4/29/99 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks. I sure wish 3COM would offer this information. > >At 04:12 PM 4/28/99 -0500, you wrote: > >On 28 Apr 1999 zip-usrtc@ran.zipcon.net wrote: > >>Does anyone know of a cheat sheet for command line config of the Hiper > >>ARC, DSP, and NMC? I'm just about to bring online my first USR-TC. > >>Thanks for any info, Dan > > > >http://enterprise.interpath.net/~jfbeam/USR/hiperARC-setup > > > >(until they get around to reclaiming the drive space :-)) > > > >--Ricky > > > > > > > >- > > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > >John Schmerold >Katy Computer Systems, Inc. >20 Meramec Station Rd >Valley Park, MO 63088 >314-316-9000 v >314-316-9200 f >email: john@katy.com > >- > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) cheat sheet for command line config
From: Marshall Morgan <marshall@netdoor.com>
Date: 2001-08-17 12:42:30

From a March 13, 2001 email to usr-tc from me: NMC via console (IP and SNMP info only), config DSP from TCM, and the ARC from console goes a little something like this .... (version 5.1.99-8 mostly) ... please change the servers! === ARC CONSOLE (PRI DSPs connected to ARC) == add ip net ip address 208.148.192.36/255.255.255.128 inter eth:1 enable y add ip defAULTROUTE gaTEWAY 208.148.192.1 metric 1 add user "administrator" password "XXXXXX" type login,manage enable y disablE nmC chASSIS_AWARENESS set chassis slot 1-14 o y card_type hdm_24 ports 23 console n type static enable secURITY_OPTION rEMOTE_USER_ADMINISTRATION tELNET add snMP community public acCESS ro adDRESS 0.0.0.0 set modem_group all message "" set modem_group all prompt "\nlogin: " disaBLE auTHENTICATION lOCAL set authENTICATION vSA enable set accounTING vsA enable set accountING loG_UNAUTHENTICATED_CALLS enABLED enable ip security_option disallow_source_route_options set commAND logiN_REQUIRED yes set radiUS authENTICATION_ALGORITHM falL_THROUGH add dns server 208.137.128.x preference 1 add dns server 208.137.128.y preference 2 set dns domain_name netdoor.com set ntp primary_server ntp.netdoor.com enable ntp set ppp ccP_MODEMTYPE_ACCEPT all set ppp reCEIVE_AUTHENTICATION pap set ppp DNS_USAGE system set ppp authentication_preference pap enable ppp offloading add ip pool ippool INITIAL_POOL_ADDRESS 208.148.211.1 size 252 route aggregate state public set authentication primary_server 208.137.128.x set authentication secondary_server 208.137.128.x set accounting primary_server 208.137.128.x set accounting secondary_server 208.148.196.x set authentication primary_secret blahblah set authentication secondary_secret blahblah set accounting primary_secret blahblah set accounting secondary_secret blahblah add sysLOG 208.137.128.x aLLOW_ALL_AUTH_LEVELS n faCILITY log_auth logleVEL crITICAL ======================== Marshall Morgan Internet Doorway, Inc (aka NETDOOR) http://www.netdoor.com 601.969.1434 x28 | 800.952.1570 x28 | 601.969.3629 x28 | Fax 601.969.3838 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 9:51 AM > Is this still around somewhere? > > At 10:47 AM 4/29/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Thanks. I sure wish 3COM would offer this information. > > > >At 04:12 PM 4/28/99 -0500, you wrote: > > >On 28 Apr 1999 zip-usrtc@ran.zipcon.net wrote: > > >>Does anyone know of a cheat sheet for command line config of the Hiper > > >>ARC, DSP, and NMC? I'm just about to bring online my first USR-TC. > > >>Thanks for any info, Dan > > > > > >http://enterprise.interpath.net/~jfbeam/USR/hiperARC-setup > > > > > >(until they get around to reclaiming the drive space :-)) > > > > > >--Ricky > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > > > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > > > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > >John Schmerold > >Katy Computer Systems, Inc. > >20 Meramec Station Rd > >Valley Park, MO 63088 > >314-316-9000 v > >314-316-9200 f > >email: john@katy.com > > > >- > > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > >

Subject: (usr-tc) Clearing password on NMC
From: Greg Coffey <greg@coffey.com>
Date: 2001-08-17 15:36:17

I have a hiper NMC card with an unknown password on it. I know on the reg nmc cards that you flipped dip switch 5 or 6 to reset this. Is it the same for the hiperNMC one? What dipswitch is it?

Subject: (usr-tc) Need some help quickly re sh sess
From: Lisa Casey <lisa@jellico.com>
Date: 2001-08-18 16:20:54

Hi Folks, We have two USR Total Control boxes being used for dial-in customers (we're an ISP). When I do a shoe sessions on these boxes the Host/Inet/Dest column shows the name of the dynamic IP the customer got when he/she logged in (such as user14.jellico.com), not the actual IP address (shch as 65.207.131.14). Due to some royal screwups by our upstream provider on our zone files, I believe that this is causing serious problems for us. Is there ANY way to reconfigure these boxes so that this shows as IP address? In other words, when one of these users goes to POP mail. I'ld like the request to come from 65.207.131.14, not user14.jellico.com Thanks, Lisa Casey

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Need some help quickly re sh sess
From: Kirk Mitchell <mitch@keyconn.net>
Date: 2001-08-18 22:22:23

At 04:20 PM 8/18/01 -0400, Lisa Casey wrote: >Hi Folks, > >We have two USR Total Control boxes being used for dial-in customers (we're >an ISP). When I do a shoe sessions on these boxes the Host/Inet/Dest column >shows the name of the dynamic IP the customer got when he/she logged in >(such as user14.jellico.com), not the actual IP address (shch as >65.207.131.14). Due to some royal screwups by our upstream provider on our >zone files, I believe that this is causing serious problems for us. Is >there ANY way to reconfigure these boxes so that this shows as IP address? >In other words, when one of these users goes to POP mail. I'ld like the >request to come from 65.207.131.14, not user14.jellico.com It sounds like the issue leading to this question is a mail server issue relating to the mail server doing reverse lookups? If this is the case, nothing you do on your box will have an effect, the DNS issues must be corrected. Alternately, contact the mail server admin and have him disable lookups. -- Kirk Mitchell-General Manager mitch@keyconn.net Keystone Connect Unlock Your World Altoona, PA 814-941-5000 http://www.keyconn.net

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Need some help quickly re sh sess
From: Ved <ved@iyka.com>
Date: 2001-08-18 22:31:56

Well, this should not cause an problems at all, when you do a show session all you are asking the Total control is to display the sessions and its basically tranlating the IP to the host nameServer If you look at the name it basically resolves as Address: 207.155.183.72#53 Name: user14.jellico.com Address: 65.207.131.14 If you do not want to see this - the easy way is to remove the DNS server name on the total control, it will not resolve the IP to that name - V > At 04:20 PM 8/18/01 -0400, Lisa Casey wrote: > >Hi Folks, > > > >We have two USR Total Control boxes being used for dial-in customers (we're > >an ISP). When I do a shoe sessions on these boxes the Host/Inet/Dest column > >shows the name of the dynamic IP the customer got when he/she logged in > >(such as user14.jellico.com), not the actual IP address (shch as > >65.207.131.14). Due to some royal screwups by our upstream provider on our > >zone files, I believe that this is causing serious problems for us. Is > >there ANY way to reconfigure these boxes so that this shows as IP address? > >In other words, when one of these users goes to POP mail. I'ld like the > >request to come from 65.207.131.14, not user14.jellico.com >

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) SNMP on NetServer Card,NMC and Chassis
From: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com>
Date: 2001-08-20 10:10:09

returning from vacation...don't know if you got a response to this or not...but, fwiw Also sprach Michael Smirnov >I have a TotalControl 1000 with NetServer Card, NMC and some analog >Quad Modem Cards. A twisted-pair cable is connected to Netserver Card, >but NMC is not connected to a cable at all. Makes it hard to manage the chassis if the NMC isn't on the network...but not terribly relevent to this situation I don't think. >There is a MIB file >ftp://ftp.3com.com/pub/rapd/usr_nets.zip Well...that's a zip file, not a MIB file, though I believe it has the MIB files in it. :) >However, >1.3.6.1.4.1.429.4.10.1.1.18 >enterprises.usRobotics.common.usrCip.usrCipPortParamTable.usrCipPortParamEnt >ry.usrCipUserName >doesn't work when I try to use it on a NetServer Card's IP address :-((( >I found that on my NetServer Card there is no OIDs, >beginning with 1.3.6.1.4.1.429 The NETServer only supports basic MIB-II, which is about useless for anything significant for Access Servers. The usrCip MIB is only available in the HiPer Arc cards (and similar), not the NETServer. Basically, you're not going to find anything under the enterprises tree in the NETServer, so there's not a great deal of interest that you can do with the SNMP agent in the NETServer. >What should I do to make this OID work? Replace your NETServer(s) with HiPer Arc(s), at great expense to yourself, despite the fact that the NETServers never really worked as advertised which essentially amounts to Bait and Switch on the part of 3Com. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) FS: Used Total Control Equipment.
From: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com>
Date: 2001-08-20 10:21:27

<getting caught up from vacation mail pile-up> Also sprach Thomas_Goodman@3com.com [not commenting on the text of the message] Hey, nice to see "official" 3Com representation on the list again. Perhaps upper management is finally seeing the light of reason? I don't know at this point as I've pretty much given up on 3Com, though I always keep doors open... Tom, since I can't email you directly at 3Com (someone needs to beat your supposed security group about the head and shoulders with a very large LART), can you give me a call, or possibly a different email address that I could get ahold of you? (I'm assuming that my email will get through bouncing through the list) I'd like to get a chance to clear some things up with you (personally, not as an agent of 3Com). Thanks! -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456

Subject: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Randy Cosby <dcosby@infowest.com>
Date: 2001-08-20 11:34:40

Has anyone installed the V.92 software? Can you give details of performance, problems, how the upgrade is done, etc? I'm also interested in hearing any experiences with the 96 port DSP's. What are the "practical" requirements (power, HARC, etc.) to run those? I've been off the list of a while, so apologies if this has been discussed before. Randy Cosby Developer Shed, Inc./InfoWest, Inc. 435-674-0165 x11 Fax: 435-674-9654 --- http://www.infowest.com http://www.devshed.com

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Need some help quickly re sh sess
From: Mike Andrews <mandrews@bit0.com>
Date: 2001-08-20 11:35:39

DNS doesn't quite work like that -- if you don't want the name to show up at your POP3 server, take it out of DNS completely. This is a DNS issue, not a Total Control issue. But the big question is why is having a hostname there a problem at all? The POP3 server shouldn't generally care whether the IP resolves to a hostname or not -- unless there's something like TCP Wrappers configured in Paranoid mode that's dropping connections when the forward and reverse lookups don't match. (Which again isn't a Total Control issue, it's misconfigured DNS.) Mike Andrews * mandrews@dcr.net * mandrews@bit0.com * http://www.bit0.com VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet access for Frankfort, Lexington, Louisville and surrounding counties www.fark.com: If it's not news, it's Fark. (Or something like that.) On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Lisa Casey wrote: > Hi Folks, > > We have two USR Total Control boxes being used for dial-in customers (we're > an ISP). When I do a shoe sessions on these boxes the Host/Inet/Dest column > shows the name of the dynamic IP the customer got when he/she logged in > (such as user14.jellico.com), not the actual IP address (shch as > 65.207.131.14). Due to some royal screwups by our upstream provider on our > zone files, I believe that this is causing serious problems for us. Is > there ANY way to reconfigure these boxes so that this shows as IP address? > In other words, when one of these users goes to POP mail. I'ld like the > request to come from 65.207.131.14, not user14.jellico.com > > Thanks, > > Lisa Casey > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. >

Subject: (usr-tc) NFAS???
From: Green Apple Network Info <netinfo@greenapple.com>
Date: 2001-08-20 13:18:32

Hello All, Looking for good resource of info on setting up NFAS with Hiper DSP's. Requirements on my side and ILEC side. Is anyone doing this with Ameritech PRI lines now? Pros and Cons?? Thanks, Mark Green Apple Inc

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) SNMP on NetServer Card,NMC and Chassis
From: Michael Smirnov <smbsmb@mail.ru>
Date: 2001-08-20 22:28:49

> >I have a TotalControl 1000 with NetServer Card, NMC and some analog > >Quad Modem Cards. A twisted-pair cable is connected to Netserver Card, > >but NMC is not connected to a cable at all. > > Makes it hard to manage the chassis if the NMC isn't on the > network...but not terribly relevent to this situation I don't think. After I connected a cable to NMC, I found it on another IP address, using a network scanner ;-) Some useful snmp functions work now. > >There is a MIB file > >ftp://ftp.3com.com/pub/rapd/usr_nets.zip > > Well...that's a zip file, not a MIB file, though I believe it has the > MIB files in it. :) I'm a candidate (almost doctor) of computer science ;-))))) > >What should I do to make this OID work? > > Replace your NETServer(s) with HiPer Arc(s), at great expense to > yourself, despite the fact that the NETServers never really worked as > advertised which essentially amounts to Bait and Switch on the part of > 3Com. Yes, 3com thinks that its clients are not enough clever....

Subject: (usr-tc) Flashing Hyper Arc
From: Steve Johnson <linuxnut@sonic.net>
Date: 2001-08-21 10:42:01

I am in the process of trying to flash my Hyper Arc from V4.2.32 to 5.0.9, I am using the curent TCM software. When I start the flash everything goes smoothly untill I hit 80% then I get an TFTP error, Access Violation and it aborts. Anyone know what this means exactly? Is there a way to get more info as to what happened then just 'Access Violation'? -Steve -- Steve Johnson - linuxnut@sonic.net Sonic.net, Inc. System Administrator 300 B Street #100 707.522.1000 (Voice) Santa Rosa, CA 95404 707.547.2199 (Fax) http://www.sonic.net/ Key fingerprint = 9F 9E 50 44 02 74 03 C8 5E 1D 35 15 24 29 0B 97

Subject: (usr-tc) Russain Caller ID ?!
From: Michael Smirnov <smbsmb@mail.ru>
Date: 2001-08-21 11:28:15

I have a TotalControl 1000 with NetServer Card, NMC and some analog Quad Modem Cards. Have firmwares for QMCs a feature "Russian Caller ID" ? If not, which modem cards have this feature? Russian Caller ID" and usual Caller ID work _very_ different. "Russian Caller ID" is avialable for some USR Courier modems as a firmware "AVC(Advanced Voice Courier)": http://www.usrmodem.ru/download.shtml (sorry, Russian only) but authors of this firmware say that AVC cannot work with rackmount USR Courier modems, for example QMC modems.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Flashing Hyper Arc
From: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com>
Date: 2001-08-21 13:56:37

Also sprach Steve Johnson >I am in the process of trying to flash my Hyper Arc from V4.2.32 to >5.0.9, I am using the curent TCM software. When I start the flash >everything goes smoothly untill I hit 80% then I get an TFTP error, >Access Violation and it aborts. >Anyone know what this means exactly? Is there a way to get more info >as to what happened then just 'Access Violation'? Could be that you don't have enough flash on the Arc to hold the netserve.dmf file (I think I remember that right). There are a couple of ways to get around it. If I remember correctly, if you do a "save all" and a reboot, it'll compact the configuration down somewhat or something like that. That might give you enough space to get it onto the flash. Alternatively, if you do with with z-modem at the console during bootup it might give you more to work with. I think maybe the Arc may store some stuff in flash during normal operating, and those files are not there during bootup so that gives you more to work with. I do remember that 5.0.9 was where they started running into issues about people running out of flash on early arcs that had only 8 megs I believe (you likely also only have 64 megs of regular RAM in that case). Later ones had 16 megs of flash and 128 megs of main RAM, and didn't have nearly as much problem with upgrades like this. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456

Subject: RE: (usr-tc) Flashing Hyper Arc
From: mpuras@solunet.com
Date: 2001-08-21 14:49:18

I ran into this issue before and they only way around it was to load it through the console. Thank you! Mario Puras SoluNet Technical Support Network Support Engineer We don't make network products, we make them Work! Mailto:mpuras@solunet.com 888.SOLUNET (Canada) / 888.449.5766 (USA) -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:57 PM Also sprach Steve Johnson >I am in the process of trying to flash my Hyper Arc from V4.2.32 to >5.0.9, I am using the curent TCM software. When I start the flash >everything goes smoothly untill I hit 80% then I get an TFTP error, >Access Violation and it aborts. >Anyone know what this means exactly? Is there a way to get more info >as to what happened then just 'Access Violation'? Could be that you don't have enough flash on the Arc to hold the netserve.dmf file (I think I remember that right). There are a couple of ways to get around it. If I remember correctly, if you do a "save all" and a reboot, it'll compact the configuration down somewhat or something like that. That might give you enough space to get it onto the flash. Alternatively, if you do with with z-modem at the console during bootup it might give you more to work with. I think maybe the Arc may store some stuff in flash during normal operating, and those files are not there during bootup so that gives you more to work with. I do remember that 5.0.9 was where they started running into issues about people running out of flash on early arcs that had only 8 megs I believe (you likely also only have 64 megs of regular RAM in that case). Later ones had 16 megs of flash and 128 megs of main RAM, and didn't have nearly as much problem with upgrades like this. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: RE: (usr-tc) Flashing Hyper Arc
From: Lance Eves <leves@kanokla.com>
Date: 2001-08-21 20:46:59

Weren't there two ways to flash up to 5.0.9? I think that if you have the 64MB version of the hiper arc, it takes two steps to flash it. You flash up to an intermediate version and then flash again to the full version. It's been a while since I've done it, so I might be thinking of a different version. Thanks, Lance Eves KanOkla Communications 620-845-5500 leves@kanokla.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Mcadams Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 12:57 PM Also sprach Steve Johnson >I am in the process of trying to flash my Hyper Arc from V4.2.32 to >5.0.9, I am using the curent TCM software. When I start the flash >everything goes smoothly untill I hit 80% then I get an TFTP error, >Access Violation and it aborts. >Anyone know what this means exactly? Is there a way to get more info >as to what happened then just 'Access Violation'? Could be that you don't have enough flash on the Arc to hold the netserve.dmf file (I think I remember that right). There are a couple of ways to get around it. If I remember correctly, if you do a "save all" and a reboot, it'll compact the configuration down somewhat or something like that. That might give you enough space to get it onto the flash. Alternatively, if you do with with z-modem at the console during bootup it might give you more to work with. I think maybe the Arc may store some stuff in flash during normal operating, and those files are not there during bootup so that gives you more to work with. I do remember that 5.0.9 was where they started running into issues about people running out of flash on early arcs that had only 8 megs I believe (you likely also only have 64 megs of regular RAM in that case). Later ones had 16 megs of flash and 128 megs of main RAM, and didn't have nearly as much problem with upgrades like this. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: RE: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Ed Taylor <ed@1st.net>
Date: 2001-08-22 09:38:24

Is it even out yet? -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800) 716-6190 Fax: (740) 695-7258 Email: ed@1st.net Web: http://www.1st.net -- Simply 1st in Internet Solutions! -- -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:35 PM Has anyone installed the V.92 software? Can you give details of performance, problems, how the upgrade is done, etc? I'm also interested in hearing any experiences with the 96 port DSP's. What are the "practical" requirements (power, HARC, etc.) to run those? I've been off the list of a while, so apologies if this has been discussed before. Randy Cosby Developer Shed, Inc./InfoWest, Inc. 435-674-0165 x11 Fax: 435-674-9654 --- http://www.infowest.com http://www.devshed.com - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Flashing Hyper Arc
From: Mark Thornton <mark@corridor.net>
Date: 2001-08-22 09:48:23

There are specific instructions on how to upgrade an 8 mb flash hyperarc at the end of the 24232400.pdf file from 3com. If you need a copy of the pdf let me know. Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:46 PM > Weren't there two ways to flash up to 5.0.9? I think that if you have > the 64MB version of the hiper arc, it takes two steps to flash it. You > flash up to an intermediate version and then flash again to the full > version. It's been a while since I've done it, so I might be thinking > of a different version. > > Thanks, > > Lance Eves > KanOkla Communications > 620-845-5500 > leves@kanokla.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Mcadams > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 12:57 PM > To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Flashing Hyper Arc > > > Also sprach Steve Johnson > >I am in the process of trying to flash my Hyper Arc from V4.2.32 to > >5.0.9, I am using the curent TCM software. When I start the flash > >everything goes smoothly untill I hit 80% then I get an TFTP error, > >Access Violation and it aborts. > > >Anyone know what this means exactly? Is there a way to get more info > >as to what happened then just 'Access Violation'? > > Could be that you don't have enough flash on the Arc to hold the > netserve.dmf file (I think I remember that right). > > There are a couple of ways to get around it. If I remember correctly, > if you do a "save all" and a reboot, it'll compact the configuration > down somewhat or something like that. That might give you enough space > to get it onto the flash. Alternatively, if you do with with z-modem at > the console during bootup it might give you more to work with. I think > maybe the Arc may store some stuff in flash during normal operating, and > those files are not there during bootup so that gives you more to work > with. > > I do remember that 5.0.9 was where they started running into issues > about people running out of flash on early arcs that had only 8 megs I > believe (you likely also only have 64 megs of regular RAM in that case). > Later ones had 16 megs of flash and 128 megs of main RAM, and didn't > have nearly as much problem with upgrades like this. > -- > Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com > Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 > IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information > on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same > address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) FS: Used Total Control Equipment.
From: Mark Thornton <mark@corridor.net>
Date: 2001-08-22 09:54:31

I too am thankful that 3Com dropped by the list. Tom, can you give us an official position on the status of the following items: V.92 and what else is required in the chassis like hipernmc's What level of functionality for v.92 V.44 Due dates for both The reason I am asking is another vendor with both already under the belt is pushing real hard to buy this 3Com stuff from me and set me up. I'm still trying to figure out if 3Com/Commworks is the horse to ride in this race and I suspect others are as well. I'm not looking for special insight though that would be nice, just the official line. Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:45 AM > > > Greg, > > Your used equipment is worth more than you are asking and it does not have HiPer > NMCs required for v.92. > > CommWorks has rebate programs that can net you more cash if you purchase new > gear to replace what you are selling. > > Note: $8200 for 5 HiPer DSPs or 120 ports is $68/port > If you purchase a Multi-Span Chassis (96 ports, Dual 130A, New ARC, 333MHz NMC > and a Multi-Span Card (96 ports) 192 ports total you can get the following > rebates. > $90 x first 96 ports in chassis bundle = $8640 > $40 x second 96 ports = $3840 > Total = $12,480 in rebates or $65/port @ 192 ports (The rebate/port slides as > you add additional blades to the same base unit) > > Since you have 7 total HiPer DSPs for sale x 24 port = 168 ports > $90 x first 96 ports in chassis bundle = $8640 > $40 x second 72 ports turned in = $2880 > Total = $11,520 or $68.57/port > > There is also a program for Quad Card Upgrades to HiPer @ $50 on Double Plays or > $75 per port on HiPer Starter Bundles and you can also move all the way to the > Multi-Span at the $40 on Multi-Span Blades and $90 on Multi-Span Chassis > > See the web sites for rules/descriptions and forms. > http://www.commworks.com/svprovider/programs/total_control_eds/promos.html > > Call your authorized reseller to see if we can put together a better deal then > selling off used or buying used. > > Thanks, > > Tom Goodman > thomas_goodman@3Com.com > CommWorks Channel Sales > 847-262-1039 > > > > > Jason Percle <jjperc@petronet.net> on 08/10/2001 02:35:51 PM > > Please respond to usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > > Sent by: Jason Percle <jjperc@petronet.net> > > > To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > cc: (Thomas Goodman/MW/US/3Com) > Subject: (usr-tc) FS: Used Total Control Equipment. > > > > We have the following used equipment for sale: > > Total Control Chassis - $8200, includes: > Integrated Fan Tray. > 5 - HiperDSP Cards. > 1 - HiperARC Card. > 1 - NMC Card. > 2 - 70A Power Supplies. > > Total Control Chassis - $4500, includes: > Integrated Fan Tray. > 2 - HiperDSP Cards. > 1 - HiperARC Card. > 1 - NMC Card. > 1 - 70A Power Supply. > > Total Control Chassis - $1500, includes: > Fan Tray. > 1 - Dual PRI Card. > 5 - Quad Digital Modems. > 7 - Quad Digital/Analog Modems. > 1 - Netserver/PRI Card. > 1 - NMC Card. > 2 - 45A Power Supplies. > > Total Control Chassis - $700, includes: > Fan Tray. > 6 - Quad Digital/Analog Modems. > 1 - Netserver/PRI Card. > 2 - 45A Power Supplies. > *Needs a Dual PRI/T1 Card and NMC Card. > > If interested or any inquiries, email ggreen@petronet.net or call > 985-385-2219 - ask for Greg. > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: (usr-tc) FS: MultiSpan, Hiper DSP (T1) & (E1), Bundles
From: ISP-NetworkHardware.com <sales@isp-networkhardware.com>
Date: 2001-08-22 13:11:43

Available Now. Hiper DSP $1500 Hiper DSP (E1) $2500 Hiper ARC 64MB $1000 EdgeServer Pro $1500 Available in a week or so. Customer Over-purchased 3Com Multi-Span 96 port DSP cards 3c0504693-00 New Condition. $13,000 or BO WTB: Hiper NMC's, NMC v90 enabled HIPER T1 Bundle.... $5000 HD Chassis with Dual 70A power NMC Hiper ARC 2x Hiper DSP (T1) HIPER E1 Bundle....$7000 HD Chassis with Dual 70A power NMC Hiper ARC 2x Hiper DSP (E1) Quad Digital v90 Bundle....$1400 HD Chassis with 70A power NMC v90 Netserver PRI Dual PRI 12x Quad Digital Modems Quad Analog/Digital v90 Bundle... $1600 HD Chassis with 70A power NMC v90 Netserver PRI Dual PRI 12x Quad Digital/Analog Modems Quad Analog v90 Bundle... $1400 Chassis with Dual 45A power NMC v90 15x Quad Analog Modem FAN TRAYS $150 CABLES available for analog applications If you are looking for anything Total Control give me a shout.

Subject: (usr-tc) Firmwares for Quad Modem Card features - please help me a little
From: Michael Smirnov <smbsmb@mail.ru>
Date: 2001-08-22 14:55:01

Where can I find information about features of new firmwares for Quad Modem Cards ? I found here http://totalservice.3com.com only filenames of firmwares! TCM shows for my Quad Modems: 2 QMCs: Modem Model v34FaxISDN Hardware Revision 0.3.0 Supervisor Software Date 03/10/99 Supervisor Software Revision 6.0.6 other 2 QMCs: Modem Model v34FaxISDN Hardware Revision 0.3.0 Supervisor Software Date 03/18/98 Supervisor Software Revision 5.9.9 So I think it is now qf060006.zip(Quad Modem Double-Sided, TCS 3.5/3.6) and qf050909.zip(Quad Modem Double-Sided, TCS 3.1/3.1.1/3) in them??? What does "TCS" mean ? Please tell me about qf060086.zip and qr060186.zip, which I have and am going to download to my QMCs. Can I use it with my QMCs at all? Which featutes do they have comparing with my old firmwares?

Subject: (usr-tc) New list member
From: Doug Hensley <doug_hensley@generalhealth.org>
Date: 2001-08-24 11:55:30

Good afternoon to the list. I'm not sure whether anyone is on here now or not. I am about to put back into service a USR TC rackmount 32 and seeking software, software updates, etc. for same. Thanks in advance for any leads, Doug Hensley System Engineer PHNS Baton Rouge

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Flashing Hyper Arc
From: Jonathan Byrne <byrnej@gol.com>
Date: 2001-08-24 12:56:28

Steve Johnson (linuxnut@sonic.net) wrote: > smoothly untill I hit 80% then I get an TFTP error, Access Violation and it I see also, but see it a lot less on 128 meg ARCs. If it's nearby, I just go there and flash it over the console port, which works fine. Cheers, Jonathan

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: thomas_goodman@3com.com
Date: 2001-08-26 19:29:19

V.92 was posted for Beta last week (August 23, 2001). I have asked for some official words to submit to this list. Anyone looking to be a part of the Beta would need to fill out the Beta form on Total Service. Min Requirements for V.92 HiPer DSP HiPer ARC w/ 128MB HiPer NMC or Multi-Span New ARC or 56bit VPN ARC 333MHz NMC Hardware Requirements for Multi-Span Blade (96-port card) HiPer ARC w/ 128MB HiPer NMC Note: Max number of ports that these cards will handle is 450 ports. ( you could add 4 multi-spans to a Total Control 1000 with 48 ports of HiPer DSP) The new 333MHz NMC and New ARC will handle 672 ports. More to follow. Tom Goodman RAS Specialist (United States) "Randy Cosby" <dcosby@infowest.com> on 08/20/2001 12:34:40 PM Please respond to usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Sent by: "Randy Cosby" <dcosby@infowest.com> cc: (Thomas Goodman/MW/US/3Com) Has anyone installed the V.92 software? Can you give details of performance, problems, how the upgrade is done, etc? I'm also interested in hearing any experiences with the 96 port DSP's. What are the "practical" requirements (power, HARC, etc.) to run those? I've been off the list of a while, so apologies if this has been discussed before. Randy Cosby Developer Shed, Inc./InfoWest, Inc. 435-674-0165 x11 Fax: 435-674-9654 --- http://www.infowest.com http://www.devshed.com - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com>
Date: 2001-08-26 21:45:53

Hi, Is HiPer NMC actually necessary for v.92 to function? I'm guessing that to force an upgrade to HiPer NMC that no mib support for v.92 knobs will be in the next 486 NMC? That would be bad. I really have no incentive other than this to upgrade my NMC cards. They work just fine :) Charles | Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel | INCH System Administration Team | (212)243-5200 | spork@inch.com | access@inch.com On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 Thomas_Goodman@3com.com wrote: > > > V.92 was posted for Beta last week (August 23, 2001). I have asked for some > official words to submit to this list. Anyone looking to be a part of the Beta > would need to fill out the Beta form on Total Service. > > Min Requirements for V.92 > HiPer DSP > HiPer ARC w/ 128MB > HiPer NMC > or > Multi-Span > New ARC or 56bit VPN ARC > 333MHz NMC > > Hardware Requirements for Multi-Span Blade (96-port card) > HiPer ARC w/ 128MB > HiPer NMC > Note: Max number of ports that these cards will handle is 450 ports. ( you could > add 4 multi-spans to a Total Control 1000 with 48 ports of HiPer DSP) > The new 333MHz NMC and New ARC will handle 672 ports. > > More to follow. > > Tom Goodman > RAS Specialist (United States) > > > > > "Randy Cosby" <dcosby@infowest.com> on 08/20/2001 12:34:40 PM > > Please respond to usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > > Sent by: "Randy Cosby" <dcosby@infowest.com> > > > To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > cc: (Thomas Goodman/MW/US/3Com) > Subject: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet? > > > > Has anyone installed the V.92 software? Can you give details of > performance, problems, how the upgrade is done, etc? > I'm also interested in hearing any experiences with the 96 port DSP's. What > are the "practical" requirements (power, HARC, etc.) to run those? > > I've been off the list of a while, so apologies if this has been discussed > before. > > Randy Cosby > Developer Shed, Inc./InfoWest, Inc. > 435-674-0165 x11 > Fax: 435-674-9654 > --- > http://www.infowest.com > http://www.devshed.com > > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. >

Subject: RE: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Ed Taylor <ed@1st.net>
Date: 2001-08-26 23:50:32

Mr. Goodman, Does 3com feel good about how they are going to distribute v.92? When others are giving it away? and encouraging all the 3com ISPs to switch with some nice incentives? We have competitors that have v.92 and it didn't cost them a dime... 3com needs to realize that we have paid handsomely for our equipment and if they want ISP's to continue to support and stick with them they should be considering upgrades for this stuff for free or relatively cheap. Oh and please do not say "if you are under a support blah... blah... blah". You are in the equipment business... we bought the equipment... not 3com's terrible support... we do our own support and do a very good job of it I might add. Oh and I am NOT alone on this one... 75% on this list feel the same way I do. Some of which have done a lot in the past to help grow 3com with their own support. We have well over 2500 ports and we are NOT happy! Also... we are STILL waiting on those 5 Palm Pilots we were promise 2 years ago. Thank you, -- Ed Taylor -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Thomas_Goodman@3com.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 8:29 PM V.92 was posted for Beta last week (August 23, 2001). I have asked for some official words to submit to this list. Anyone looking to be a part of the Beta would need to fill out the Beta form on Total Service. Min Requirements for V.92 HiPer DSP HiPer ARC w/ 128MB HiPer NMC or Multi-Span New ARC or 56bit VPN ARC 333MHz NMC Hardware Requirements for Multi-Span Blade (96-port card) HiPer ARC w/ 128MB HiPer NMC Note: Max number of ports that these cards will handle is 450 ports. ( you could add 4 multi-spans to a Total Control 1000 with 48 ports of HiPer DSP) The new 333MHz NMC and New ARC will handle 672 ports. More to follow. Tom Goodman RAS Specialist (United States)

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Mike Wilker <mikew@ll.net>
Date: 2001-08-27 11:38:24

I have both PM3s and Cisco AS5248s that were purchased at the same time as my TotalControl Hiper systems and that won't ever see v.92 loaded onto them. Some of my Hiper equipment just turned 3 years old, and the fact that it's even able to migrate to the latest standards is something I value. Now I'd rather not have to pay for that, but after 3 years of use I don't think that the replacement of 1 card to bring an entire chassis up to an entirely new standard is such a terrible thing. Maybe 3Com would consider a trade-in program for the NMC. It would cost considerably more to move all of my ports to another vendor than it would to simply upgrade the NMC. Mike Wilker Director of Network Operations Tiger Communications DBA Local Link USA, Globaleyes Comm, Protocom ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 10:50 PM Mr. Goodman, Does 3com feel good about how they are going to distribute v.92? When others are giving it away? and encouraging all the 3com ISPs to switch with some nice incentives? We have competitors that have v.92 and it didn't cost them a dime... 3com needs to realize that we have paid handsomely for our equipment and if they want ISP's to continue to support and stick with them they should be considering upgrades for this stuff for free or relatively cheap. Oh and please do not say "if you are under a support blah... blah... blah". You are in the equipment business... we bought the equipment... not 3com's terrible support... we do our own support and do a very good job of it I might add. Oh and I am NOT alone on this one... 75% on this list feel the same way I do. Some of which have done a lot in the past to help grow 3com with their own support. We have well over 2500 ports and we are NOT happy! Also... we are STILL waiting on those 5 Palm Pilots we were promise 2 years ago. Thank you, -- Ed Taylor -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Thomas_Goodman@3com.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 8:29 PM V.92 was posted for Beta last week (August 23, 2001). I have asked for some official words to submit to this list. Anyone looking to be a part of the Beta would need to fill out the Beta form on Total Service. Min Requirements for V.92 HiPer DSP HiPer ARC w/ 128MB HiPer NMC or Multi-Span New ARC or 56bit VPN ARC 333MHz NMC Hardware Requirements for Multi-Span Blade (96-port card) HiPer ARC w/ 128MB HiPer NMC Note: Max number of ports that these cards will handle is 450 ports. ( you could add 4 multi-spans to a Total Control 1000 with 48 ports of HiPer DSP) The new 333MHz NMC and New ARC will handle 672 ports. More to follow. Tom Goodman RAS Specialist (United States) - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: (usr-tc) Callback w/Harc
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F3hannes_R=F6gnvaldsson?= <johannes@ejs.is>
Date: 2001-08-27 11:39:38

Hi=20 My system has: =09 Dual Pri=20 HARC 3Com SA server (forwards auth req to ACE server) Has anyone successfully set up a system with callback! When I define a callback user locally on the HARC I get disconnected immediately, the HARC calls back but the dialin client doesn't answer because the session was disconnected immediately! add user "test" password "test" type network,callback set user test phone_number "5555555" When I try to do this on the SA server it seems to have no effect at all, the user type is "framed,callback", I set the callback phone number in the "callback" window. I dial in and get connected right away. I don't even get disconnected. Thanks=20 Johannes Rognvaldsson LAN/WAN Specialist EJS hf

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com>
Date: 2001-08-27 12:43:57

Also sprach Mike Wilker >I have both PM3s and Cisco AS5248s that were purchased at the same time >as my TotalControl Hiper systems and that won't ever see v.92 loaded >onto them. Some of my Hiper equipment just turned 3 years old, and the >fact that it's even able to migrate to the latest standards is >something I value. Now I'd rather not have to pay for that, but after >3 years of use I don't think that the replacement of 1 card to bring an >entire chassis up to an entirely new standard is such a terrible thing. >Maybe 3Com would consider a trade-in program for the NMC. It would >cost considerably more to move all of my ports to another vendor than >it would to simply upgrade the NMC. Check out Patton. It was going to cost me considerably *less* to forklift upgrade to Patton than to update cards and get support rapes^Wcontracts for the Total Control gear to get V.92. I don't think we're going to go that route...but for different reasons. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) OSPF problems
From: Mike Greene <mikeg@rockisland.com>
Date: 2001-08-27 17:22:18

At 08:01 PM 8/27/01 -0400, you wrote: >Hi, > >OK, got that part fixed. No nssa on USR. > >Now I'm lost on this "sendpolicy" command. I've added a full /24 that >holds static IP users, and tried a single host route for a test account. >Neither shows up in the cisco's ospf db. I don't think the USR is >advertising this... > >Any ideas? Charles, This is from memory and was done a LONG time ago, but I think the command I used was as follows: add ospf sendpolicy xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/29 source local action advertise This was for a small subnet, I don't believe I ever had to enter anything for static IP customers, nor the fulll class C for dynamic dial-up. One thing that that I recall was there were 3 options for the "source" only one would work correctly. Incidentally this had to be done via the CLI, the GUI just messed things up and wasn't very reliable. The OSPF configuration for the HARC is a long convoluted mess and took me several tries over the period of about a year to finally get it to function correctly (which even today is suspect). - Mike Rock Island Communications, Inc. (360)-378-5884 http://www.rockisland.com/ San Juan Islands, WA

Subject: (usr-tc) OSPF problems
From: Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com>
Date: 2001-08-27 19:14:20

Hi, I'm running ARC 4.2.32, and need to set up a very simple ospf setup for static IP customers. The other end is a cisco router. Doing a debug on the cisco shows me this: OSPF: Hello from 216.223.208.3 with mismatched Stub/Transit area option bit OSPF: Send with youngest Key 2 OSPF: Hello from 216.223.208.3 with mismatched Stub/Transit area option bit OSPF: Send with youngest Key 2 Eh? Any ideas? Is OSPF broken or can I not make the USR a stub? Charles | Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel | INCH System Administration Team | (212)243-5200 | spork@inch.com | access@inch.com

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) OSPF problems
From: Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com>
Date: 2001-08-27 20:01:03

Hi, OK, got that part fixed. No nssa on USR. Now I'm lost on this "sendpolicy" command. I've added a full /24 that holds static IP users, and tried a single host route for a test account. Neither shows up in the cisco's ospf db. I don't think the USR is advertising this... Any ideas? Thanks, Charles | Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel | INCH System Administration Team | (212)243-5200 | spork@inch.com | access@inch.com On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Charles Sprickman wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running ARC 4.2.32, and need to set up a very simple ospf setup for > static IP customers. The other end is a cisco router. > > Doing a debug on the cisco shows me this: > > OSPF: Hello from 216.223.208.3 with mismatched Stub/Transit area option > bit > OSPF: Send with youngest Key 2 > OSPF: Hello from 216.223.208.3 with mismatched Stub/Transit area option > bit > OSPF: Send with youngest Key 2 > > Eh? > > Any ideas? Is OSPF broken or can I not make the USR a stub? > > Charles > > | Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel > | INCH System Administration Team | (212)243-5200 > | spork@inch.com | access@inch.com > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. >

Subject: (usr-tc) Looking for feedback
From: Bennie Warren <tc1000@wirelessln.com>
Date: 2001-08-27 20:02:47

I am new to this list. I am preparing to buy a TC1000 chassis with 2 Hiperarc cards, 2 DS3 Ingress cards and 7 DSP cards. My questions are, does anyone else have any configuration even close to this? Is everyone happy with the support they get? How about pitfalls? I was also looking for a much more active list, any inputs on that? Thanks for any input on these items. Bennie

Subject: RE: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Bob Purdon - Lists <lists@aussie.nu>
Date: 2001-08-27 20:07:09

> Does 3com feel good about how they are going to distribute v.92? When > others are giving it away? and encouraging all the 3com ISPs to switch > with some nice incentives? V.92 - we're still smarting over the bugs in the NETserver that were never fixed. We were told to buy a contract to get them fixed, so we did. Then we get told they'll never be fixed and to buy an ARC instead. *Buy*? We paid for support to fix these things and get told the only way is to buy another product? We didn't care if 3COM decided to remedy the problem by *giving* us ARC's, but of course that didn't happen. > We have competitors that have v.92 and it didn't cost them a dime... My honest opinion is that 3COM don't want to be in the RAS business. They charge like wounded bulls for support and then don't deliver what they promise. Warranty support was nigh on impossible for us to get, and even now that case is still pending. One warranty case was closed recently without even consulting us, well before the problem was resolved and now rather than refer to the previous case notes we're being forced to go through the whole process from the start - again. > Oh and I am NOT alone on this one... 75% on this list feel the same > way I do. No doubt. The only reason we recently bought more 3COM was because it was too cheap to turn down (a fully populated HiPer chassis at half Cisco prices). Needless to say we didn't buy it from 3COM, but from a reseller who was stuck with it. > We have well over 2500 ports and we are NOT happy! A tad over 1000 ports here. > Also... we are STILL waiting on those 5 Palm Pilots we were promise 2 > years ago. We got ours, but that was before USR was bought by 3COM. Back then local support was good too.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) OSPF problems
From: Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com>
Date: 2001-08-27 21:51:29

On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Mike Greene wrote: > Charles, > > This is from memory and was done a LONG time ago, but I think the command I > used was as follows: > > add ospf sendpolicy xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/29 source local action advertise I have that, I'm unclear on what the difference is between source "local" and "remote". Remote seems to connotate a route learned from a dialup user's router, or a subnet routed to a dialup user. The docs don't elablorate on that. > This was for a small subnet, I don't believe I ever had to enter anything > for static IP customers, nor the fulll class C for dynamic dial-up. One > thing that that I recall was there were 3 options for the "source" only one > would work correctly. Incidentally this had to be done via the CLI, the > GUI just messed things up and wasn't very reliable. Yep, doing the cli here. I searched my own limited archives of this list and found some notes regarding routing a subnet to a customer. In that scenario, the arc must be an ASBR. I've made it one for good measure :) But it's not even advertising HOST routes! The cisco and the arc do see each other as neighbors, and their are some routes hitting the arc FROM the cisco, but not vice-versa. Not a one. > The OSPF configuration for the HARC is a long convoluted mess and took me > several tries over the period of about a year to finally get it to function > correctly (which even today is suspect). It took me more than a year to decide to jump in and attack it. Now I know why I waited... Hey, there's always RIP redistributed into OSPF on the cisco ;) Thanks, Charles > > > > - Mike > > ------------------------------------------------ > Rock Island Communications, Inc. (360)-378-5884 > http://www.rockisland.com/ San Juan Islands, WA > ------------------------------------------------ > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. >

Subject: RE: (usr-tc) Looking for feedback
From: Ed Taylor <ed@1st.net>
Date: 2001-08-28 00:10:55

Support? From 3com? Good luck... Pitfalls... no upgrading without more cost. -- Edgar D. Taylor -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bennie Warren Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:03 PM I am new to this list. I am preparing to buy a TC1000 chassis with 2 Hiperarc cards, 2 DS3 Ingress cards and 7 DSP cards. My questions are, does anyone else have any configuration even close to this? Is everyone happy with the support they get? How about pitfalls? I was also looking for a much more active list, any inputs on that? Thanks for any input on these items. Bennie - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Stephen Amadei <amadei@dandy.net>
Date: 2001-08-28 00:20:20

On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Jeff Mcadams wrote: > Check out Patton. > > It was going to cost me considerably *less* to forklift upgrade to > Patton than to update cards and get support rapes^Wcontracts for the > Total Control gear to get V.92. I don't think we're going to go that > route...but for different reasons. We're in the same boat, and Ariel now has a neat deal where they will convert IMT (Intermachine Trunks) to 24 line PRI's using their SS7 Switch... so our final PRI cost was less than $300 for 24 lines... the catch, we must use Ariel RAS equipment. Big deal... it supports v.92 and has a modem compatibility list a mile long... and the prices for the Ariel equipment are fairly low. Latest purchase of ports around here was _not_ 3Com. Damn! Now I have to rewrite TCView... ArielView? ;-) ----Steve Stephen Amadei Dandy.net CTO Atlantic City, NJ

Subject: (usr-tc) OSPF sendpolicy question/problem
From: Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com>
Date: 2001-08-28 01:15:37

Hi, I'm running ARC 4.2.32, and I'm seeing some odd things with OSPF and sendpolicy matching. For example, here's my current sendpolicy: HiPer-1>> list osPF seNDPOLICY OSPF Send Policies: Source Address/Mask Action LOCAL x.x.193.000/C Advertise LOCAL x.x.195.000/C Do Not Advertise LOCAL x.x.197.000/C Do Not Advertise LOCAL x.x.199.000/C Advertise If I put a test user in x.x.193.0/24 somewhere, the host route is propogated to the neighbor (Cisco) fine. If I put the test user in x.x.199.0/24, it is not. Looking at the database on the cisco, I do not see the route at all. If I remove all the sendpolicy's, the x.x.199.x user's host route does propogate. I also have the two class C's that I do NOT want advertised, and the arc is spewing all the /32's at the cisco. O E1 x.x.195.17/32 [110/11] via x.x.208.3, 00:04:07, Ethernet0 O E1 x.x.195.19/32 [110/11] via x.x.208.3, 01:44:01, Ethernet0 O E1 x.x.195.29/32 [110/11] via x.x.208.3, 00:31:21, Ethernet0 O E1 x.x.195.30/32 [110/11] via x.x.208.3, 00:28:10, Ethernet0 O E1 x.x.195.25/32 [110/11] via x.x.208.3, 00:00:14, Ethernet0 O E1 x.x.195.26/32 [110/11] via x.x.208.3, 01:41:09, Ethernet0 O E1 x.x.195.27/32 [110/11] via x.x.208.3, 00:12:11, Ethernet0 Is this functionality just broken? I've not been brave enough to enter the world of 5.x arc code yet, and I don't want to go there unless I know it fixes any serious OSPF issues besides the DR/BDR problem... More ospf config info: on cisco, the arc's area is a stub. on arc: HiPer-1>> show osPF gloBAL GLOBAL OSPF SETTINGS Router ID: x.x.208.3 Administrative Status: ENABLED OSPF Version Number: 2 Area Border Router Status: DISABLED Autonomous System Border Router Status: ENABLED Type-of-service (TOS) Support: OFF External LSDB Limit: -1 Multicast Extensions Support: OFF Exit Overflow Interval: 0 Router's Support for OSPF Demand Routing: OFF OSPF Traps: DISABLED HiPer-1>> show osPF inTERFACE x.x.208.3 OSPF INTERFACE SETTINGS Interface IP Address: x.x.208.3 Addressless Ifindex: 0 Area ID: 0.0.0.1 Interface Type BC Administrative Status: ENABLED Router Priority: 0 Transit Delay: 1 Retranmit Interval: 5 Hello Interval: 10 Router Dead Interval: 40 OSPF Interface State: OtherDsgRtr Designated Router Address: x.x.208.1 Backup Designated Router Address: NONE Authentication Type: None OSPF Interface Demand: OFF OSPF Interface Metric TOS: 0 OSPF Interface Metric Value: 10 Any ideas? Thanks, Charles | Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel | INCH System Administration Team | (212)243-5200 | spork@inch.com | access@inch.com

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com>
Date: 2001-08-28 01:39:27

On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Stephen Amadei wrote: > We're in the same boat, and Ariel now has a neat deal where they will > convert IMT (Intermachine Trunks) to 24 line PRI's using their SS7 > Switch... so our final PRI cost was less than $300 for 24 lines... the > catch, we must use Ariel RAS equipment. Big deal... it supports v.92 and > has a modem compatibility list a mile long... and the prices for the Ariel > equipment are fairly low. From their web page: "In conjunction with all the above reasons to buy a RS2000, Ariel's recent price reduction makes NOW the perfect time to purchase remote access server equipment to help you start or expand your business. At just $2,376 for a 24-port, T1/PRI PCI card, you can't afford to pass on this opportunity!" But there's a guy here selling used DSP's for $1500 quite often... That's only $62/port. And when you throw away your quads, you've got quite a bit of room :) Of course they'll probably EOL the T1 DSPs as they ramp up the DS3 cards... C > Latest purchase of ports around here was _not_ 3Com. Damn! Now I have to > rewrite TCView... ArielView? ;-) > > ----Steve > Stephen Amadei > Dandy.net CTO > Atlantic City, NJ > > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. >

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Looking for feedback
From: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com>
Date: 2001-08-28 08:02:51

Also sprach Bennie Warren >I am new to this list. I am preparing to buy a TC1000 chassis with 2 >Hiperarc cards, 2 DS3 Ingress cards and 7 DSP cards. My questions are, >does anyone else have any configuration even close to this? Is everyone >happy with the support they get? How about pitfalls? I was also looking >for a much more active list, any inputs on that? I've got chassis with that much capacity on them, but not with DS3 ingress. Support basically is non-existant from 3Com at this point, and many of the active posters on this list over the years have left for greener RAS pastures. Of those of us that are left, many of us are considering it or are in the process. You can check out archives of the list at http://usr-tc.1st.net (maintained by Ed Taylor I believe, who also responded to you) and get a feel for how things have gone with 3Com. >Thanks for any input on these items. Overall, at this point, I would strongly urge you *not* to buy 3Com. My $.02 -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Seth Jacobs <seth.jacobs@onramp113.org>
Date: 2001-08-28 11:38:56

I don't really disagree with what being said here, but here we finally have someone from 3Com offering to provide useful information. Tom isn't the cause of the problem. Seth ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:43 AM > You know something ED, you have hit the nail right on the head with this > 3COM stuff and upgrades and support. I agree with you on every you said > below. It is just too bad that 3COM will not acknowledge you message. > > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ed Taylor > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:51 PM > To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com; Thomas_Goodman@3com.com > Subject: RE: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet? > Importance: High > > > Mr. Goodman, > > Does 3com feel good about how they are going to distribute v.92? When others > are giving it away? and encouraging all the 3com ISPs to switch with some > nice incentives? > > We have competitors that have v.92 and it didn't cost them a dime... 3com > needs to realize that we have paid handsomely for our equipment and if they > want ISP's to continue to support and stick with them they should be > considering upgrades for this stuff for free or relatively cheap. Oh and > please do not say "if you are under a support blah... blah... blah". You are > in the equipment business... we bought the equipment... not 3com's terrible > support... we do our own support and do a very good job of it I might add. > > Oh and I am NOT alone on this one... 75% on this list feel the same way I > do. Some of which have done a lot in the past to help grow 3com with their > own support. > > We have well over 2500 ports and we are NOT happy! > > Also... we are STILL waiting on those 5 Palm Pilots we were promise 2 years > ago. > > Thank you, > > -- > Ed Taylor > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > Thomas_Goodman@3com.com > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 8:29 PM > To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet? > > V.92 was posted for Beta last week (August 23, 2001). I have asked for some > official words to submit to this list. Anyone looking to be a part of the > Beta > would need to fill out the Beta form on Total Service. > > Min Requirements for V.92 > HiPer DSP > HiPer ARC w/ 128MB > HiPer NMC > or > Multi-Span > New ARC or 56bit VPN ARC > 333MHz NMC > > Hardware Requirements for Multi-Span Blade (96-port card) > HiPer ARC w/ 128MB > HiPer NMC > Note: Max number of ports that these cards will handle is 450 ports. ( you > could > add 4 multi-spans to a Total Control 1000 with 48 ports of HiPer DSP) > The new 333MHz NMC and New ARC will handle 672 ports. > > More to follow. > > Tom Goodman > RAS Specialist (United States) > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: RE: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Andrew $NetFlash System Administrator$ <andrew@netflash.net>
Date: 2001-08-28 14:43:59

You know something ED, you have hit the nail right on the head with this 3COM stuff and upgrades and support. I agree with you on every you said below. It is just too bad that 3COM will not acknowledge you message. Andrew -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ed Taylor Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:51 PM Importance: High Mr. Goodman, Does 3com feel good about how they are going to distribute v.92? When others are giving it away? and encouraging all the 3com ISPs to switch with some nice incentives? We have competitors that have v.92 and it didn't cost them a dime... 3com needs to realize that we have paid handsomely for our equipment and if they want ISP's to continue to support and stick with them they should be considering upgrades for this stuff for free or relatively cheap. Oh and please do not say "if you are under a support blah... blah... blah". You are in the equipment business... we bought the equipment... not 3com's terrible support... we do our own support and do a very good job of it I might add. Oh and I am NOT alone on this one... 75% on this list feel the same way I do. Some of which have done a lot in the past to help grow 3com with their own support. We have well over 2500 ports and we are NOT happy! Also... we are STILL waiting on those 5 Palm Pilots we were promise 2 years ago. Thank you, -- Ed Taylor -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Thomas_Goodman@3com.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 8:29 PM V.92 was posted for Beta last week (August 23, 2001). I have asked for some official words to submit to this list. Anyone looking to be a part of the Beta would need to fill out the Beta form on Total Service. Min Requirements for V.92 HiPer DSP HiPer ARC w/ 128MB HiPer NMC or Multi-Span New ARC or 56bit VPN ARC 333MHz NMC Hardware Requirements for Multi-Span Blade (96-port card) HiPer ARC w/ 128MB HiPer NMC Note: Max number of ports that these cards will handle is 450 ports. ( you could add 4 multi-spans to a Total Control 1000 with 48 ports of HiPer DSP) The new 333MHz NMC and New ARC will handle 672 ports. More to follow. Tom Goodman RAS Specialist (United States) - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: RE: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Brian Becker <brian@semo.net>
Date: 2001-08-28 14:59:40

I agree. Tom is my pick for RAS-SERVER-CUSTOMER-SUPPORT Individual of the Year. See you in a less than two months Tom! ISPConVegas. Let it ride on Red, BABY!!!! Brian Becker President, Poplar Bluff Internet, Inc. P.O. Box 190 | Poplar Bluff, MO 63902 | 573.686.9114 Home of http://semo.net - Southeast Missouri's Online Community http://TotallyFabricated.com Total Scrutinizer - Tech Support Just Got Easier WebGabber - All-html Web Chat Software -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Mcadams Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:54 PM Also sprach Seth Jacobs >I don't really disagree with what being said here, but here we finally >have someone from 3Com offering to provide useful information. Tom >isn't the cause of the problem. And I'll strongly "amen" this statement. Tom has been absolutely *wonderful* to deal with over the years (we dealt with him back before USR was purchased by 3Com), and has almost always worked for the good of his customers...even taking battles very strongly up the chain of command within 3Com. Unfortunately, the chain of command for support issues ends at Al Huefner and Irfan Ali. These people are the problem, not Tom. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com>
Date: 2001-08-28 15:54:14

Also sprach Seth Jacobs >I don't really disagree with what being said here, but here we finally >have someone from 3Com offering to provide useful information. Tom >isn't the cause of the problem. And I'll strongly "amen" this statement. Tom has been absolutely *wonderful* to deal with over the years (we dealt with him back before USR was purchased by 3Com), and has almost always worked for the good of his customers...even taking battles very strongly up the chain of command within 3Com. Unfortunately, the chain of command for support issues ends at Al Huefner and Irfan Ali. These people are the problem, not Tom. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456

Subject: RE: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Ed Taylor <ed@1st.net>
Date: 2001-08-28 16:13:06

I agree... Tom has been ok (other than the Palms we were promised and never received). However, Tom is the one that posted the 'great deal'. So I felt he could take our message back to 3com so they could stick it in their pipe. Or at least do something for those of us who have stuck it out this long to show their appreciation... -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800) 716-6190 Fax: (740) 695-7258 Email: ed@1st.net Web: http://www.1st.net -- Simply 1st in Internet Solutions! -- -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Mcadams Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:54 PM Also sprach Seth Jacobs >I don't really disagree with what being said here, but here we finally >have someone from 3Com offering to provide useful information. Tom >isn't the cause of the problem. And I'll strongly "amen" this statement. Tom has been absolutely *wonderful* to deal with over the years (we dealt with him back before USR was purchased by 3Com), and has almost always worked for the good of his customers...even taking battles very strongly up the chain of command within 3Com. Unfortunately, the chain of command for support issues ends at Al Huefner and Irfan Ali. These people are the problem, not Tom. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Dayton Internet <w8mfd@dayton.net>
Date: 2001-08-28 16:45:50

Mr. Goodman; I am still waiting for replies to my 3 emails to the management of 3Com before I do any more business with your company. I worked for 30 years in the computer industry before starting Dayton Internet, and I worked for and with all the BIG companies in the industry, IBM, Burroughs, Intel, NCR, Honeywell, ADP, EDP, Univac, Cisco, ADDS, etc etc and I never ever saw a policy for preventing the distribution of repair software to existing users as bad as the 3Com policy. --Rich Adams, President-Dayton Internet Services, Dayton, Ohio-- --w8mfd@dayton.net--www.dayton.net--www.dayton.com--937-586-2500-- On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 Thomas_Goodman@3com.com wrote: > > > V.92 was posted for Beta last week (August 23, 2001). I have asked for some > official words to submit to this list. Anyone looking to be a part of the Beta > would need to fill out the Beta form on Total Service. > > Min Requirements for V.92 > HiPer DSP > HiPer ARC w/ 128MB > HiPer NMC > or > Multi-Span > New ARC or 56bit VPN ARC > 333MHz NMC > > Hardware Requirements for Multi-Span Blade (96-port card) > HiPer ARC w/ 128MB > HiPer NMC > Note: Max number of ports that these cards will handle is 450 ports. ( you could > add 4 multi-spans to a Total Control 1000 with 48 ports of HiPer DSP) > The new 333MHz NMC and New ARC will handle 672 ports. > > More to follow. > > Tom Goodman > RAS Specialist (United States) > > > > > "Randy Cosby" <dcosby@infowest.com> on 08/20/2001 12:34:40 PM > > Please respond to usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > > Sent by: "Randy Cosby" <dcosby@infowest.com> > > > To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > cc: (Thomas Goodman/MW/US/3Com) > Subject: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet? > > > > Has anyone installed the V.92 software? Can you give details of > performance, problems, how the upgrade is done, etc? > I'm also interested in hearing any experiences with the 96 port DSP's. What > are the "practical" requirements (power, HARC, etc.) to run those? > > I've been off the list of a while, so apologies if this has been discussed > before. > > Randy Cosby > Developer Shed, Inc./InfoWest, Inc. > 435-674-0165 x11 > Fax: 435-674-9654 > --- > http://www.infowest.com > http://www.devshed.com > > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > --

Subject: (usr-tc) i need dsp
From: Wilson Diaz <wdiaz@andinet.com>
Date: 2001-08-29 13:44:37

I am interested in acquiring 5 Hiper DSP E1 and 1Hiper ARC, also thank for information, as time of delivery and mode of payment. Thanks

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Bennie Warren <tc1000@wirelessln.com>
Date: 2001-08-29 17:51:27

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* What is the price they are charging without the support contract? So far the support has been pretty forward. Of course I haven't bought it yet. They will come and install it. Then an engineer will come out and work with us for a couple of days. Bennie > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > You know something ED, you have hit the nail right on the head with this > 3COM stuff and upgrades and support. I agree with you on every you said > below. It is just too bad that 3COM will not acknowledge you message. > > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ed Taylor > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:51 PM > To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com; Thomas_Goodman@3com.com > Subject: RE: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet? > Importance: High > > > Mr. Goodman, > > Does 3com feel good about how they are going to distribute v.92? When others > are giving it away? and encouraging all the 3com ISPs to switch with some > nice incentives? > > We have competitors that have v.92 and it didn't cost them a dime... 3com > needs to realize that we have paid handsomely for our equipment and if they > want ISP's to continue to support and stick with them they should be > considering upgrades for this stuff for free or relatively cheap. Oh and > please do not say "if you are under a support blah... blah... blah". You are > in the equipment business... we bought the equipment... not 3com's terrible > support... we do our own support and do a very good job of it I might add. > > Oh and I am NOT alone on this one... 75% on this list feel the same way I > do. Some of which have done a lot in the past to help grow 3com with their > own support. > > We have well over 2500 ports and we are NOT happy! > > Also... we are STILL waiting on those 5 Palm Pilots we were promise 2 years > ago. > > Thank you, > > -- > Ed Taylor > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > Thomas_Goodman@3com.com > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 8:29 PM > To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet? > > V.92 was posted for Beta last week (August 23, 2001). I have asked for some > official words to submit to this list. Anyone looking to be a part of the > Beta > would need to fill out the Beta form on Total Service. > > Min Requirements for V.92 > HiPer DSP > HiPer ARC w/ 128MB > HiPer NMC > or > Multi-Span > New ARC or 56bit VPN ARC > 333MHz NMC > > Hardware Requirements for Multi-Span Blade (96-port card) > HiPer ARC w/ 128MB > HiPer NMC > Note: Max number of ports that these cards will handle is 450 ports. ( you > could > add 4 multi-spans to a Total Control 1000 with 48 ports of HiPer DSP) > The new 333MHz NMC and New ARC will handle 672 ports. > > More to follow. > > Tom Goodman > RAS Specialist (United States) > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > - > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > -- ************************************** Bennie Warren LemooreNet 320 West D Street Lemoore, CA 93245 Phone: 559.924.5909 Fax 559.924.9578 bennie@lemoorenet.com http://www.lemoorenet.com **************************************

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Paul Farber <farber@admin.f-tech.net>
Date: 2001-08-29 21:04:46

Patton is gonna upgrade the 200+ ports I got from them for $0... plus support the units. Needless to say the market will be FLOODED with 3COM gear when all the ISP's leases come up (I have the first 96 of 312 leased ports coming up in about 3 months... guess which RAS vendor will be getting a call from me to replace the ports going back? Beuhler? Beuhler? ) There should be an anonymous web page where ISP's can post the number of ports replacing, and with what vendor to show 3COM that the jig is up. -- Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545 On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Bennie Warren wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > What is the price they are charging without the support contract? So far the > support has been pretty forward. Of course I haven't bought it yet. They > will come and install it. Then an engineer will come out and work with us > for a couple of days. > > Bennie > > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > You know something ED, you have hit the nail right on the head with this > > 3COM stuff and upgrades and support. I agree with you on every you said > > below. It is just too bad that 3COM will not acknowledge you message. > > > > Andrew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > > [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ed Taylor > > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:51 PM > > To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com; Thomas_Goodman@3com.com > > Subject: RE: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet? > > Importance: High > > > > > > Mr. Goodman, > > > > Does 3com feel good about how they are going to distribute v.92? When others > > are giving it away? and encouraging all the 3com ISPs to switch with some > > nice incentives? > > > > We have competitors that have v.92 and it didn't cost them a dime... 3com > > needs to realize that we have paid handsomely for our equipment and if they > > want ISP's to continue to support and stick with them they should be > > considering upgrades for this stuff for free or relatively cheap. Oh and > > please do not say "if you are under a support blah... blah... blah". You are > > in the equipment business... we bought the equipment... not 3com's terrible > > support... we do our own support and do a very good job of it I might add. > > > > Oh and I am NOT alone on this one... 75% on this list feel the same way I > > do. Some of which have done a lot in the past to help grow 3com with their > > own support. > > > > We have well over 2500 ports and we are NOT happy! > > > > Also... we are STILL waiting on those 5 Palm Pilots we were promise 2 years > > ago. > > > > Thank you, > > > > -- > > Ed Taylor > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > > [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > > Thomas_Goodman@3com.com > > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 8:29 PM > > To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet? > > > > V.92 was posted for Beta last week (August 23, 2001). I have asked for some > > official words to submit to this list. Anyone looking to be a part of the > > Beta > > would need to fill out the Beta form on Total Service. > > > > Min Requirements for V.92 > > HiPer DSP > > HiPer ARC w/ 128MB > > HiPer NMC > > or > > Multi-Span > > New ARC or 56bit VPN ARC > > 333MHz NMC > > > > Hardware Requirements for Multi-Span Blade (96-port card) > > HiPer ARC w/ 128MB > > HiPer NMC > > Note: Max number of ports that these cards will handle is 450 ports. ( you > > could > > add 4 multi-spans to a Total Control 1000 with 48 ports of HiPer DSP) > > The new 333MHz NMC and New ARC will handle 672 ports. > > > > More to follow. > > > > Tom Goodman > > RAS Specialist (United States) > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > > with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. > > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > >

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com>
Date: 2001-08-29 23:19:22

Also sprach Paul Farber >Needless to say the market will be FLOODED with 3COM gear when all the >ISP's leases come up (I have the first 96 of 312 leased ports coming up >in about 3 months... guess which RAS vendor will be getting a call from >me to replace the ports going back? Beuhler? Beuhler? ) We're thinking about Cisco...a bit more expensive than the Patton offering...but some really cool extra capabilities come with it. >There should be an anonymous web page where ISP's can post the number >of ports replacing, and with what vendor to show 3COM that the jig is >up. Why anonymous? I'd be happy to let them know what the final decision is here if they'd even just accept my email address. *shrug* Its clear that 3Com doesn't want to hear from their customers. Did any of you all read the 10K? Good grief! Claflin and company should be indicted! I would think, based on the performance of 3Com as a company, that they wouldn't be getting any bonus at all...I guess that's what I get for having those pesky ethics. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet?
From: Paul Farber <farber@admin.f-tech.net>
Date: 2001-08-30 00:45:00

One thing that got me to move on from 3COM is that most of the small mid ISP's need RAS, not VoIP or wireless access etc etc etc..... but good, reliable modem pools to feed the masses. -- Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545 On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Jeff Mcadams wrote: > We're thinking about Cisco...a bit more expensive than the Patton > offering...but some really cool extra capabilities come with it.

Subject: (usr-tc) filtered packet logging
From: Mike Andrews <mandrews@bit0.com>
Date: 2001-08-30 01:28:38

Sorry to interrupt your regularly scheduled 3Com bashing, but: Anyone had any trouble getting logging of filtered packets to work? I've got packet logging set to "all", size 80, but don't get anything logged under ARC 5.1.99 code. This used to work fine... I know I have to be missing something really really obvious here... but I haven't had to touch my ARCs in so long I can't remember. (Not having to touch them is a good thing, of course... it means they work...) Mike Andrews * mandrews@dcr.net * mandrews@bit0.com * http://www.bit0.com VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet access for Frankfort, Lexington, Louisville and surrounding counties www.fark.com: If it's not news, it's Fark. (Or something like that.)

Subject: (usr-tc) Hiper arc memory
From: Steve Johnson <linuxnut@sonic.net>
Date: 2001-08-30 11:34:34

Hello people =) I have a Hyper Arc for a TC1000 box that only has 8megs of ram, anyone know what kind of memory I need to up this baby to 16megs? -Steve -- Steve Johnson - linuxnut@sonic.net Sonic.net, Inc. System Administrator 300 B Street #100 707.522.1000 (Voice) Santa Rosa, CA 95404 707.547.2199 (Fax) http://www.sonic.net/ Key fingerprint = 9F 9E 50 44 02 74 03 C8 5E 1D 35 15 24 29 0B 97

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Hiper arc memory
From: Mike Greene <mikeg@rockisland.com>
Date: 2001-08-30 11:52:22

At 11:34 AM 8/30/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hello people =) > > I have a Hyper Arc for a TC1000 box that only has 8megs of ram, >anyone know what kind of memory I need to up this baby to 16megs? The 8MB Rom chip is onboard and from what I can tell is not replaceable, the RAM can be upgraded with the following chip. 128MB EDO 168pin BUFFERED 3.3v - Mike Rock Island Communications, Inc. (360)-378-5884 http://www.rockisland.com/ San Juan Islands, WA

Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Looking for feedback
From: Jonathan Byrne <byrnej@gol.com>
Date: 2001-08-30 17:11:20

Bennie Warren (tc1000@wirelessln.com) wrote: > I am new to this list. I am preparing to buy a TC1000 > chassis with 2 Hiperarc cards, 2 DS3 Ingress cards and 7 DSP > support they get? How about pitfalls? I was also looking for > a much more active list, any inputs on that? We had been an all-3Com shop up until this summer. When it came time to add 40 PRIs of capacity to our Tokyo POP, we went with two Cisco AS5400s and one AS5300 and have been very happy with the level of support shown to us by both our vendor and Cisco. I would tend to agree with Jeff McAdams on this: don't go 3Com. If you want something cheap, get Patton (caveat: nothing in a Patton RAS is field replaceable, so you might want to consider keeping a hot spare around. But they, they're cheap, so you can do that). If you want something enterprise-level, give Cisco a look. Cheers, Jonathan

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