FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: DE200006 Date: 10/01/96 From: PATRICK SPENCE Time: 11:17pm \/To: WILLIAM CONNOR (Read 3 times) Subj: Renegade/2 William Connor Babbled about bbs softwares WC> So, Kenny... Are you on the beta team yet??? WC> WC> I was thinking about it, but I just can't lie to them and WC> tell them I know what I'm doing... :) ;) if you can run Renegade, and can run os/2 you can qualify for this... the donation will get you involved in beta testing, but if you don't get any bugs, don't worry about it.. the main result is you will get to run any resulting software before generally available.. KM> Not yet... we do have the application and Don Cranford is local to us... KM> were just waiting for payday... We have already told Don that we are KM> interested, it's just a matter of doing the paperwork and writing the e WC> Hmmm... The other day I read a message something to the effect that WC> Don wasn't on the beta team? What's with that? Any truth to it? The conflict was that the person involved sent an email to the wrong person by accident, and that there are two Don C's... ;) Please read the following, its an 'official' message.. [Please re-distribute this message] Dear OS/2 Renegader's! Patrick, with Cott's permission, has authorized the establishment of an OS/2 Beta team to produce and test an OS/2 native 32-bit version of Renegade. Beta applications are now being accepted and screened for nclusion in the team. DO NOT contact Cott or Patrick! They will NOT respond to your request other than to tell you to contact me. The requirements are as follows: 1. You must run Renegade. 2. You must run OS/2 ver 3.0 (Warp) or above. 3. You must donate a minimum of $5 towards the purchase of on OS/2 Pascal Compiler. You may also donate additional money in someone else's name (gift) Some of you may balk at the contribution requirement, but Patrick doesn't have an OS/2 compiler and will not be purchasing one in the near future. If we want the most out of our systems by running a native application, we will have to finance the compiler for him. It's not fair for us to ask him to spend money to make OUR lives easier. ;-) I was asked to make it perfectly clear that the purchase of Virtual Pascal does not mean the port will be successful; on the contrary, we will be taking a risk. But what are we really risking? Five bucks is all. If the project fails (and I seriously doubt it will, in my opinion), we can say we tried our best. If the project is successful, then we've put our money and efforts where our mouth is and truly supported the software and placed it ack into competition. When the subject of the compiler was broached to Patrick, he quickly obtained demo copies of the two competing OS/2 Pascal compilers. Here is what Patrick had to say about the compiler's: ========================================================= "Though I spent some time last night (about 5 hours, downloading, setting up, etc) working with the latest betas of both.. and VirtualPascal looks like it would work a lot easier... some of the sample stuff I compiled seem easier to convert under VP than under SP... admittedly, SP has a new release pending, but VP seems far easier.. For example... I compiled 'Eds Pascal Beautifier' under both... both required a couple chhanges to the names of a few variables..(same variable). SP required me to change the size of a variable, VP had a unit to include that prevented the need. SP compiled to 60k, VP to 18k... a -significant- difference ... and from the test figures I have seen done by others, the size difference is consitant.. Also, fyi, the SP version crashed with an error, and the VP one worked like a charm..." =========================================================== Again, without the donation of a compiler, we won't have an OS/2 version. Those who donate will become part of the beta team by default and will have access to the OS/2 version well in advance of a public release. Please follow these steps to apply: Step 1: Netmail or Email me FIRST with your application. The slots are limited. My Fido node number is 1:3634/37 and my Inet address is donc@mail.apcnet.com Once you have been pre-approved, you may go to step 2. Step 2: Send your application by snail mail to: Don Cranford Thor's Retreat/2 BBS 2657 Dumbarton Rd Fayetteville, NC 28306-2715 Please include the following in your application: Name: Name: as configured in Renegade Address: Voice phone: Net address: Password: (IMPORTANT) Internet address (if you have one): I will acknowledge each response as it arrives. Charles Bowman and I will be handling the distribution of the software when it is ready. A beta copy, when it is ready, will be placed on hold here for you to pick up (passworded) and you will be notified that it is ready. If you are on the Intenet and have an email account, a UUEncoded copy will be forwarded to you. If you have any questions, feel free to call me voice at: 910-426-1303 For those of you worried about someone running off with your hard-earned cash, be advised that it is a felony to defraud you in this manner. Be also advised that the only guarrantee will be the purchase of Virtual Pascal/2 for the purpose of *attempting* to port the BBS software (Renegade) to the OS/2 platform. Signed: Cott Lang (Author) Patrick Spence (Author) Don Cranford (Administrator) Charles Bowman (Co-Administrator) [Note: any money not used will be donated to the American Cancer Society as should be in the spirit of free software] -= Don =- -- "Rev P. 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